NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to jbob
Re: My first ever warning from ISP
I suspect that the RIAA won't even try to get a criminal prosecution. That would require a criminal complaint in a court competent to handle the case, and attendant publicity. Their tactics seem to be to create an atmosphere of uncertainty; which seems to be working very well.
I have only download music twice; once under a licensed agreement, once of an album which isn't in print, and not available anywhere that I can find. If I ever do locate a physical copy, I will buy it. It was anime show tunes for a T.V. series. I didn't use a P2P program for those .mp3 files; they were hosted on a French web site.
I do use BitTornado for anime shows. I get the fansubs. I think that they fall in a gray area; the shows are under copyright, but I don't know how serious the Japanese owners would be about enforcing their rights in the U.S. courts over the shows. It may be that they calculate the cost of enforcement as exceeding any perceived loss, or something else. The sources I use stop distribution as soon as the shows are licensed for U.S. release; and, in any case, the ones which catch my eye are on my "to buy" list, anyway.
I won't touch any shows clearly under U.S. license. If they are good enough to watch, I will pay to watch. If they are not good enough to watch, they are not good enough to risk the wrath of the RIAA/MPAA.
Your friend's son is probably not a likely target for RIAA/MPAA action. But that doesn't change the ethics of taking that which is being offered for a fee, and not paying the fee to obtain it.
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jbob
Reach Out and Touch Someone
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Little Rock, AR
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| reply to NormanS
While I agree I find it highly unlikely the RIAA would ever get a conviction of someone who merely downloads copyrighted materials. I know there is theft by receiving however that tends to be what you see in criminal courts and not the civil court structure.
I have a friend who's son downloads using a Bittorrent client and also uses Limewire. With Bittorrent he typically only downloads, I presume legal, Anime movies but downloads music using Limewire. He shares his Anime movies but doesn't share the music he downloads. I was thinking he might be kind of safe using that method since he is not sharing the most likely illegal songs he has downloaded. |
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NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to jbob
Sort of like the difference between stealing stereos (uploading) and buying stolen stereos (downloading)?
Copyrighted material can only be published with permission of the copyright holder. Acquiring copies of copyrighted material from sources other than authorized publishers is just as wrong as publishing without authorization. It is, generally, more productive to go after the publishers; but that is not a limitation of the statutes covering copyright.
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Norman
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jbob
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join:2004-04-26
Little Rock, AR | reply to LLfs2
I thought the issue is with Uploading and not so much downloading??? |
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jonez
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join:2004-09-24
Stow, MA
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| reply to Omega
i stopped downloading movies on edonkey because of a letter way back in october two years ago. it's strange that the date of the letter was actually almost a month after the time of th e 'infraction' on my part. I wonder if that's sped up at all.
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Omega
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I stopped downloading movies last October because of this. |
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NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
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| reply to nchan10111
said by nchan10111 :
or come to canada, where you can share and DL as much as your hard drive has room for.
I like my Beretta M-96 a lot more than any movie which isn't worth the $20 to see in the theater. I'll stay in the U.S., thank you. And I won't waste time downloading silly copyrighted movies not worth paying to see in the theaters. (And pay to see, if it is worth it, instead of downloading it!)
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THE MANN
join:2004-08-31
| reply to LLfs2
LLfs2 say hellow to newsgroups 
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nchan10111
@guest-tek.com | reply to LLfs2
or come to canada, where you can share and DL as much as your hard drive has room for. |
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LLfs2
@planetc.com | reply to jonez
btw, was the movie worth getting caught for?
yep! 
It's really no big deal....I'll just use other methods. |
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alg
Just a shot away
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| reply to LLfs2
Well at least you have the option to stop or risk litigation. I would be ever so pissed if I ever get a notice in the mail saying I am being sued by MPAA/RIAA. Honestly if I ever received something saying stop or else, then I would probably stop. Or if nothing else just lie low for a while.
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jonez
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join:2004-09-24
Stow, MA | reply to NormanS
btw, was the movie worth getting caught for?
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NormanS
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| reply to LLfs2
said by LLfs2 :Today I revceived my first warning ever about filesharing from my ISP. Columbia pictures legal team emaield them about a movie I was sharing through Bitlord. My ISP forwareded the info to me and gave me the warning like many of you have seen. So.... I have a choice. Either I never share again or I never download again. Since I'm faily new to Bitlord, I guess I will just quit downloading until I figure out how to turn sharing off. Damn movie people!  Did it ever occur to you to just stop sharing copyrighted movies?
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THE MANN
join:2004-08-31 | reply to LLfs2
were you using anything like pg or protowall? not that it would make a big difference i'm just wondering
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jsouth
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join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | reply to jonez
Or he could use IRC.:)
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jonez
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join:2004-09-24
Stow, MA | reply to LLfs2
there's a simple way to avoid that, it's called usenet. 
»File Sharing FAQ
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LLfs2
@planetc.com
| Today I revceived my first warning ever about filesharing from my ISP. Columbia pictures legal team emaield them about a movie I was sharing through Bitlord. My ISP forwareded the info to me and gave me the warning like many of you have seen.
So.... I have a choice. Either I never share again or I never download again. Since I'm faily new to Bitlord, I guess I will just quit downloading until I figure out how to turn sharing off.
Damn movie people! |
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