fatmanskinny
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|  Does not sound attractive....
Especially when you are like me where you live over 12,000 from the nearest CO. Until FIOS come around, I guess I am "stuck" with Comcast's 6MB/384k. Pity me. 
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cracker 52
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| There won't be any FIOS in Bellsouth territory -- only in Verizon's, which covers the northeastern states and small pockets areas elsewhere (ex GTE). Bellsouth and SBC both decided to go to fiber to the curb and nodes, respectively, while Verizon spends mega bucks for fiber to the premises. Verizon will be in a much better position to compete with the cable companies, especially when DOCSIS 3.0 is rolled out sometime in late 2007 or in 2008.
By the time Bellsouth finished implementing its best speed tier of 6/512 late this year, Comcast will probably start another speed upgrade from the current regular tier of 6/384 late this year or early next year. When Bellsouth really get serious with speed upgrades in 2007, Comcast will probably start implementing DOCSIS 3.0, which will eventually increase download internet speeds up to 100 mbps.
And Bellsouth declining landline revenue will worsen next year when Comcast starts to roll out its digital phone service in their markets in the southeast. |
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Rob
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| said by cracker 52 :
There won't be any FIOS in Bellsouth territory -- only in Verizon's, which covers the northeastern states and small pockets areas elsewhere (ex GTE). Bellsouth and SBC both decided to go to fiber to the curb and nodes, respectively, while Verizon spends mega bucks for fiber to the premises. Verizon will be in a much better position to compete with the cable companies, especially when DOCSIS 3.0 is rolled out sometime in late 2007 or in 2008.
By the time Bellsouth finished implementing its best speed tier of 6/512 late this year, Comcast will probably start another speed upgrade from the current regular tier of 6/384 late this year or early next year. When Bellsouth really get serious with speed upgrades in 2007, Comcast will probably start implementing DOCSIS 3.0, which will eventually increase download internet speeds up to 100 mbps.
And Bellsouth declining landline revenue will worsen next year when Comcast starts to roll out its digital phone service in their markets in the southeast.
Do you really think Comcast will offer 100mbps tier plans in 2007? By 2007 I expect Bellsouth to have upgraded most of their customers to a faster connection/newer technology (ADSL, VDSL, etc). If not, then the entire executive team at Bellsouth (including CEO) must be removed of their duties.
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cracker 52
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| Here's a link to description of DOCSIS 3.0 and it's capabilities:
»www.telecommagazine.com/newsglob···d=AR_866
»www.telecommagazine.com/newsglob···d=AR_866
And here's a link to BBR interview with a broadband guru, Dave Burstein, in which he discusses new technologies in the industry:
»www.telecommagazine.com/newsglob···d=AR_866 |
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Rob
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| No doubt that Doc 3.0 is a step towards the right direction. But would Comcast really offer 100mb downloads in 2007? Assuming they increase the download speeds 5mb at a time every 6 months, that'll be a 20mb by 2007, putting Comcast at what? 30mb down?
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cracker 52
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| Once DOCSIS 3.0 is implemented, they will have that capability. The only question is whether it will be in 2007 or 2008 (at the latest). Also, with DOCSIS 3.0, the ability to step up speed upgrades would be far more than 5 mb at a time. Comcast would be wanting to move fast, not because of Bellsouth or SBC, but because of Verizon FTTP when their TV service starts to encroach Comcast TV cable customer base in the northeast. |
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RJ44
join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN
| I think the point Rob is trying to make is that just because the technology will allow for 100mbps doesn't mean Comcast is going to start offering 100mbps right away. Sure, they could. But why would they? VDSL2 is going to allow for 100mbps over copper, but I expect the technology will be in place for quite a while before anyone ever maxes it out with a 100mbps offering.
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cracker 52
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| That's right Comcast may not go all the way with DOCSIS 3.0 right away as they wouldn't have to. But they can go to 100 mbps if necessary with the impetus coming from Verizon.
Here's what Dave Burstein had to say about VDSL
"BellSouth has 13 million lines, a million of which have fiber to the curb from a quiet build begun years ago, yes. Those are the lucky ones, because they will be upgraded to 100 meg symmetric VDSL over the next few years. Think 60 megs in practice, but still pretty good. BellSouth has just picked that build up to 200,000 lines for 2005 after slowing down for a few; unfortunately, at that rate it will take them fifty years to complete their rollout.
The others at BellSouth are getting a build ready that will be much like SBC's, with DSL from a fiber node in the neighborhood. They intend to bond together two lines for most customers, to give you speeds closer to 30 meg down - more than the 15-20 meg SBC plans - because they think you'll need that for HD video.
Nominally ADSL2+, will morph into VDSL2 low profile soon. But VDSL2 low profile really is a slightly improved ADSL2+ (2-5 meg faster at these distances), not the 100 meg "high profile" that only works 500-1000 feet they are using for the lucky fiber to the curb types."
He also said this:
"Verizon's fiber is the best stuff out there, especially after they switch to 2.4 gigabit shared GPON in a year. That's why the smart cablecos are worried. What BellSouth and SBC are doing is essentially matching cable of 2002. By the time they deploy in 2007, cable should be well ahead."
If Verizon actually does implement 2.4 gigabit shared GPON, they can give Comcast a run for their money, behoving them to implement DOCSIS 3.0 to the fullest extent.
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