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AR
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reply to Steely
Re: Am I the only one not thrilled with my iPod?

I think I've "outgrown" my ipod. Being on the move, I'd like to have an all in one device and that's why I'm excited at the direction the cell phone mfgrs are taking with their devices.

Going to work, I have to take my cell with me. Then I have to take the subway to downtown for an appointment and it's great I have the mp3s on the cellphone. Oh look, I need to take a picture and I can use my cell for that. Then at the gym in the evening, I can listen to fm radio or mp3s on my cell again.

The only time I really need the ipod or a dedicated mp3 player is a coast to coast flight where my cell phone, even with a large capacity SD card might not prove adequate.
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I'm finding it will become increasingly more difficult to compare a 30/60GB HDD on the ipod to a cell phone with a very expensive flash card (2GB or higher sticks, may as well buy another phone entirely) ; Especially now with the video add-on on the 5G ipod........but that's just MHO.
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signmeuptoo
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I tend to agree that the iPod might be for the masses, and as a result, it is so popular, however: I am a Linux user who doesn't follow the masses, and I have NEVER used AOL, and I have an iPod mini, which, as I have been saying, I love. As a technician I still say that this mini is elegant. The button system is better.

But if I get the money for a large capacity device, it won't be an iPod, but one of the file structure players that offer the best sound quality, *if* it turns out that any of them offer superior audio sound.

The absolute MUST is the ability to use the audio player in Linux. I lucked out with the iPod, if it wasn't for gtkpod, I'd be screwed Linux-wise.
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dumwaldo
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said by GeekNJ See Profile :

Thankfully, there's all us below average AOL users to make someone as mediocre as you look so good.
and this has what to do with the OP's discussion? oh yeah it has nothing to do with it. it is just another pea brained troll.

incidentally, if you were not so below average you might recognize that i am far from mediocre. now shouldn't you be looking for an "ANY" key?


GeekNJ
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said by dumwaldo See Profile :

said by GeekNJ See Profile :

Thankfully, there's all us below average AOL users to make someone as mediocre as you look so good.
and this has what to do with the OP's discussion? oh yeah it has nothing to do with it. it is just another pea brained troll.
Hah - Seemed to be an appropriate response to the arrogant "I'm better then any iPod user" post of yours that I replied to.

said by dumwaldo See Profile :

incidentally, if you were not so below average you might recognize that i am far from mediocre.
Sorry I gave you more credit then you deserved!


dumwaldo
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said by signmeuptoo See Profile :

But if I get the money for a large capacity device, it won't be an iPod, but one of the file structure players that offer the best sound quality, *if* it turns out that any of them offer superior audio sound.
just a general FYI...

none of the Ipod's support any lossless formats. if quality is a top concern, by default the Ipod is not even a player of consideration.


aliasrlz
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said by dumwaldo See Profile :

said by signmeuptoo See Profile :

But if I get the money for a large capacity device, it won't be an iPod, but one of the file structure players that offer the best sound quality, *if* it turns out that any of them offer superior audio sound.
just a general FYI...

none of the Ipod's support any lossless formats. if quality is a top concern, by default the Ipod is not even a player of consideration.
the .wav format isn't considered lossless?
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reply to Steely
I use my ipod on Linux useing gtkpod.
I dont use itunes and I dont buy music online.
I like quality,therefore rip all my store bought cd's to disk and add to ipod.
I dont let ipod handle nameing or tag adjustments or normalization.
The databse is a great thing for huge directories of music although I perfer other options for this...similar to musicbrainz.
All my files show bitrate upon viewing file info.
I keep files at 250vbr....soon I will give .ogg a try and see if there really is an awsome digital sound with lower bitrate/filesize.Right now,40gigs is nothing for me to be concerned with about filesize.

My wife loves it,and has her own 10gig directory which she has no problem removeing/adding songs at will.
She wants the bose speaker dock for her office at work,and yes overpriced but I will get it for her.

I Love my ipod!

As for the op,a little research and paitience would have yielded much results in how to actually use your ipod.You didn't just buy a pc and use it with knowall knowledge the first time you ever used a pc did you?As another poster replied all those issues are easily fixed via some reading...not 3rd party software.How anyone can find an ipod complicated is beyond me but hey,whatever.:)
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signmeuptoo
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said by dumwaldo See Profile :

said by signmeuptoo See Profile :

But if I get the money for a large capacity device, it won't be an iPod, but one of the file structure players that offer the best sound quality, *if* it turns out that any of them offer superior audio sound.
just a general FYI...

none of the Ipod's support any lossless formats. if quality is a top concern, by default the Ipod is not even a player of consideration.
There is plenty more to sound quality than lossless audio. The amplication circuit, the DAC, so many things are involved in producing quality sound. Assuming that because a player is a "digital player" it is only as good as the digital code that goes into it is wrong, in case you were making that mistake.

The new iPods, starting with the shuffle, began to see audio qualityr improvements, but it is my impression that there might be better.

At this point, after only, what, less than a couple of weeks, I am wishing for a little better audio quality from my mini, and I am using VERY low compression, 1/2 my music is close to, or at 320k MP3 I don't buy iTunes, and I don't use iTunes, so AAC is not an option.

I listen to music where audio quality matters more. I don't listen to hip hop or rap where it isn't such a big deal.
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aliasrlz
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reply to Steely
the majority of mp3 users can't distinguish between high bitrate lossy codecs and lossless anyway ......also, hence they are ALL called "mp3" players, and the mp3 format is a lossy format.....
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dumwaldo
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said by GeekNJ See Profile :

said by dumwaldo See Profile :

said by GeekNJ See Profile :

Thankfully, there's all us below average AOL users to make someone as mediocre as you look so good.
and this has what to do with the OP's discussion? oh yeah it has nothing to do with it. it is just another pea brained troll.
Hah - Seemed to be an appropriate response to the arrogant "I'm better then any iPod user" post of yours that I replied to.
interestingly enough you had no problem with it when justin said it so apparently you have no problem with the POPULAR OPINION in this thread. you just seem to have a problem with trolling me specifically.


GeekNJ
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said by dumwaldo See Profile :

interestingly enough you had no problem with it when justin said it so apparently you have no problem with the POPULAR OPINION in this thread. you just seem to have a problem with trolling me specifically.
No, you didn't say what he said. You said:
said by dumwaldo See Profile :

its designed to be used by the most computer illiterate people on the planet

if you are routinely outsmarted by your pet then the ipod is the right choice.
Justin didn't say that at all. He made comments like:
said by justin See Profile :

We sometimes have different ideas about what is important in a device.

The music they get is all nicely tagged. It is backed up (on the ipod and on their PC). It sounds good. They can get on with doing whatever else they are like to do.

I still think the ipod is cool, especially the nano. This probably is the secret to its success. Not only is it appealing to the masses, it is also at least partially appealing to the techno cognoscenti.

They did what AOL failed to do: made something easy to use that is also bearably good for (most) geeks.
It would be like calling anyone that's excellent with computers an AOL user because they use Windows instead of the latest nightly build of some Linux distro.

I have an iPod to listen while I commute (train and subway). I listen to music (mostly what my wife has purchased from iTunes or ripped from her CD collection) and I listen to podcasts. Before I leave in the morning I plug the iPod into the computer and everything gets synced including any new podcasts which iTunes downloaded over night. Not one button needs to be pressed. When it's done, I unplug it and put it in my briefcase. When I take it out, on the unit I can quickly find any song or podcast.

It's a tremendous integration of software and hardware. No thought required - true plug and play in multiple ways. Like when you turn your stove on, do you care how the gas gets to you, runs through your gas meter, connects to the stove, how the pilot lights the gas and the thermostat keeps it at the correct temp, or do you just want to turn it on and cook?

Computers are supposed to make things better & easier, not more complicated so you can feel some sense of accomplishment or superiority.
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