oliphant
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Re: Double taxation...
said by pnh102  : The Supreme Court does not have the legal authority to "invoke" such a law when one does not exist. That would certainly be a new concept for the modern court.
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Sweet Witch
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This is such bullsh*t! You sould only pay taxes on the state you live in, especially if you telecommute. If you want to cover the cost of road repairs, put up a toll road, don't just tax everyone.
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pnh102
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said by oliphant :It's still an interstate commerce issue...just because 2 states agree to rape their citizens with F-ed tax rules doesn't make it legal. Unfortunately it is legal. For example, as I mentioned in another post, Pennsylvania has a reciprocal tax agreement with New Jersey which allows for Pennsylvanians working in New Jersey to pay only Pennsylvania income taxes and vice versa. However, Pennsylvania has no such agreement with Delaware. Pennsylvanians who work in Delaware end up paying income tax to both Pennsylvania and Delaware as a result. Unless the Federal government passes a law and says that this is illegal, it will continue to happen. The Supreme Court does not have the legal authority to "invoke" such a law when one does not exist.
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oliphant
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said by pnh102 :said by oliphant :This is a VERY slippery slope. The SC should have taken this case as I think it affects interstate commerce (and thus is a Constitutional issue). But there is also nothing stopping New York and Tennessee from establishing a reciprocal tax agreement that is similar to the one that exists between New York and New Jersey. No federal action would be needed, and since there is no federal law that directly addresses the issue, the Court technically did the right thing by not acting. Without a reciprocal agreement, you end up paying taxes to both states. It's still an interstate commerce issue...just because 2 states agree to rape their citizens with F-ed tax rules doesn't make it legal.
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said by JTRockville :I think I'll just take half my salary and donate it to the county and the state so they can build more roads for the traditional commuters. If you were in my county >3/4 will go to public schools and not to roads. |
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pnh102
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said by oliphant :This is a VERY slippery slope. The SC should have taken this case as I think it affects interstate commerce (and thus is a Constitutional issue). But there is also nothing stopping New York and Tennessee from establishing a reciprocal tax agreement that is similar to the one that exists between New York and New Jersey. No federal action would be needed, and since there is no federal law that directly addresses the issue, the Court technically did the right thing by not acting. Without a reciprocal agreement, you end up paying taxes to both states.
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it's not just Nude York that's creative.
If I work in any state for 2 weeks or more (count it as 80 hrs), then I have to file in that state. Bet you can't hear me scream about that, can you?
Seems there's some strangely crafted set of laws, that enable this.
Now, when it comes to tele-comuting, it gets even stranger. I like JT, do work all around the globe. I'm not sure how this is going to finally play out, but the only thing I know for sure is, it's going to be ugly.
I'm just waiting for some creative state to say that if I use the telecommunications lines as they traverse that state, I should be required to pay some kind of "infa-structure" support cost while I'm using the network lines in that state.
You know, before long, we'll be taxed out of existence.
I'm of the firm opinion, we should off shore some of our executive management and our state; local and federal legislators. |
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CrazyFingers
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Columbia, MO | reply to morethanhuman
More tax-protester drivel from a whackadoodle nut-job.
Good luck explaining to the judge that you're using the same tired arguments that were tossed out of court 25 years ago as frivolous crap.
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oliphant
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said by bookie :Back on the offshore tech thing. Say a tech takes a lot of calls from New York. How long before he is taxed for that? Or any other state? What about telemarketers? What I'm thinking is if NY can tax workers out of state, why can't they tax workers out of the country...and by that meaning force in state companies to withhold the taxes so the state gets their money.
This is a VERY slippery slope. The SC should have taken this case as I think it affects interstate commerce (and thus is a Constitutional issue).
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morethanhuman
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Relating to this question and all of the replies thus far posted on this topic....
If you work in the PRIVATE SECTOR, NONE of your earnings are taxable under the Federal income tax laws (and most state laws, too).
I have had a ZERO tax liability with Federal and State governments (NJ & VA) for the last three years because I woke up to the same truth that hundreds of Americans are waking up to everyday.
The simple answer is because income taxes are EXCISE TAXES related to specific types of economic activity (usually government-related). The rest of us get suckered into the scam through ignorance and deception...and we stay there because we are afraid to act on the truth.
This will be my last post to this forum, because you must take it upon yourself to learn more and educate yourself. Simply go to »www.losthorizons.com and read what is on that site. More importantly, get the book I mentioned in my previous post.
You now have the information you need to save you thousands of dollars every year, which I'm sure you can spend much more fruitfully than our bottom-feeding bureaucrats at all levels of government.
Your dreams and your freedom remain in your hands.
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alanhdsl
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By breaking the law. This is one of those "The IRS is illegal" sites.
It's certainly valid to question taxation policies, but in no way are income taxes outright illegal. You might check out www.quatloos.com for what happens to a lot of these guys. |
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ronpin
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Since when is an income tax a tariff??? |
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I've been paying into Virginia's coffers from the day I started working and it isn't too bad. Last time I was in FL they just stuck it to the citizens through sales tax. I think it was almost $0.09 on the dollar where I was in central FL.
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said by xrobertcmx :That was how it worked when I was in the Army. I was stationed in CO, but I paid state income tax to VA. Oh I feel your pain, but lucky for me at that time my home state was Florida so I had no taxes, now its Penn, and I am been tax big time, time to move again. |
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JTRockville
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said by morethanhuman :
The truth about our Tennessee telecommuter is that he is not liable to ANY INCOME TAX AT ALL (Federal or State). Is that also true for Tennessee residents with traditional commutes?
How does the Tennessee telecommuter get away with not paying federal income tax? |
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JTRockville
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Heh, not if I have to pay income tax to a dozen different states. Then again, if I have to pay income tax to a dozen different states, I won't be able to afford a network connection!
Maybe this is a ban on telecommuting disguised as a tax? |
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said by bostonkarl1 :Ya, I never understood taxachussets thing. Maine is the least tax friendly New England state, believe it or not. Mass rates below the median of all states. » money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/···dex.html Thats because of the stigma Massachusetts got and thus worked hard to vote against higher taxes probably mostly to debunk the stigma. Having Republican governors since 1988 (in the most liberal state of the union) didn't hurt. |
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bostonkarl1
join:2003-07-09
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Ya, I never understood taxachussets thing.
Maine is the least tax friendly New England state, believe it or not. Mass rates below the median of all states.
»money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/···dex.html |
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moonpuppy
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I thought you were going to pay me for FIOS?
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It seems government wants more and more but give less and less. |
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bookie
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Cordova, TN | reply to oliphant
Back on the offshore tech thing. Say a tech takes a lot of calls from New York. How long before he is taxed for that? Or any other state?
What about telemarketers? |
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