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Re: Double taxation...

TN doesn't have state income tax. But it's an interesting point--what happens when someone lives in Massachusetts and telecommutes to NY? Wouldn't they get taxed twice?

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Re: Double taxation...

said by jtanner See Profile :

TN doesn't have state income tax. But it's an interesting point--what happens when someone lives in Massachusetts and telecommutes to NY? Wouldn't they get taxed twice?

Jim
I live in Maryland. The company I work for is headquartered in Virginia, though they have offices all over the globe.

Whether or not I commute to one of their offices, I pay my taxes to my home state of Maryland. As it happens though, I rarely work from anywhere other than my home. I've been a full-time telecommuter for over 8 years.
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Re: Double taxation...

How dare you cheat Virginia out of their income tax?

And what about all the gas you are not using? Doesn't Maryland deserve their massive gas tax too? :D:D

This could get ugly as how many people tele-commute from other states? How many people want to be taxed twice? Or, how about being taxed in every state where your company has a location in?

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Re: Double taxation...

said by moonpuppy See Profile :

How dare you cheat Virginia out of their income tax?

And what about all the gas you are not using? Doesn't Maryland deserve their massive gas tax too? :D:D

This could get ugly as how many people tele-commute from other states? How many people want to be taxed twice? Or, how about being taxed in every state where your company has a location in?
I think I'll just take half my salary and donate it to the county and the state so they can build more roads for the traditional commuters. Then I'll take the other half of my salary and spread it around to all the states where the company I work for has offices: California, District of Columbia, Massachusetts, New York (gasp!), North Carolina, Oklahoma, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, Virginia. I'll be sure to reserve some for my home state: Maryland.

Too bad there will be nothing left to donate to the other countries where the company I work for has offices: Brazil, Canada, India, Russia, United Kingdom. If there were, I could help provide health care and retirement income for those who live in countries where the government subsidizes those services.

Who needs disposable income anyway?
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Re: Double taxation...

I fear them pressing this issue more. If so I and a lot of people will be hurting.

I vpn into networks in 5 or 6 countries plus ones in almost all 50 states. Just this morning I vpned into Pa. Ny. Nh. RI. Conn. Ne. and Fl. , does this mean under this the whole slew of them have the ability to chase me down for taxes ? If so Ma. where i actually live is gonna be screwed on my taxes.

Greed has no bounds I guess. Start taxing the people who are outsourced to other countries. Because then that will drive up their cost as well and maybe the work will come back to North America.
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I thought you were going to pay me for FIOS?

:D:D

It seems government wants more and more but give less and less.

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Re: Double taxation...

Heh, not if I have to pay income tax to a dozen different states. Then again, if I have to pay income tax to a dozen different states, I won't be able to afford a network connection!

Maybe this is a ban on telecommuting disguised as a tax?
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said by JTRockville See Profile :

I think I'll just take half my salary and donate it to the county and the state so they can build more roads for the traditional commuters.
If you were in my county >3/4 will go to public schools and not to roads.
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That was how it worked when I was in the Army. I was stationed in CO, but I paid state income tax to VA.
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Re: Double taxation...

said by xrobertcmx See Profile :

That was how it worked when I was in the Army. I was stationed in CO, but I paid state income tax to VA.
Oh I feel your pain, but lucky for me at that time my home state was Florida so I had no taxes, now its Penn, and I am been tax big time, time to move again.
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I've been paying into Virginia's coffers from the day I started working and it isn't too bad. Last time I was in FL they just stuck it to the citizens through sales tax. I think it was almost $0.09 on the dollar where I was in central FL.
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haha living in taxachusetts, i bet they are already being taxed twice.
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Re: Double taxation...

This is GREAT NEWS!!! - maybe now all those outsourced jobs in India and China get to pay US taxes -- so we can retire! (hey - "freedom is on the march" -- better pay up!)
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Re: Double taxation...

Just what I was thinking tax all the 'outsourced' jobs!!it might bring some jobs back.

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said by ronpin See Profile :

This is GREAT NEWS!!! - maybe now all those outsourced jobs in India and China get to pay US taxes -- so we can retire! (hey - "freedom is on the march" -- better pay up!)
I like it! Maybe we can get something back for all of the outsourcing.
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Re: Double taxation...

said by n2jtx See Profile :

said by ronpin See Profile :

This is GREAT NEWS!!! - maybe now all those outsourced jobs in India and China get to pay US taxes -- so we can retire! (hey - "freedom is on the march" -- better pay up!)
I like it! Maybe we can get something back for all of the outsourcing.
Tariffs are pretty damn bad things. Trust me on this one. We may not like outsourcing but the "simple" tariff "fix" is even worse.

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Re: Double taxation...

Since when is an income tax a tariff???

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Amazingly enough, 'taxachusetts' has fewer taxes than many other states (including CT), and tac-free shopping is just a run up the highway in New Hampshire!!
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Re: Double taxation...

Shhh. they start moving around here and rent will go even more.
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Re: Double taxation...

Ya, I never understood taxachussets thing.

Maine is the least tax friendly New England state, believe it or not. Mass rates below the median of all states.

»money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/···dex.html

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Re: Double taxation...

said by bostonkarl1 See Profile :

Ya, I never understood taxachussets thing.

Maine is the least tax friendly New England state, believe it or not. Mass rates below the median of all states.

»money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/···dex.html
Thats because of the stigma Massachusetts got and thus worked hard to vote against higher taxes probably mostly to debunk the stigma. Having Republican governors since 1988 (in the most liberal state of the union) didn't hurt.

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said by jtanner See Profile :

TN doesn't have state income tax.
Jim
My bad, I thought I remembered some whooplah about them starting it a year or two ago. But still, TN gets their revenue some someplace whether it's higher property tax, sales tax or whatever. If you are taxed by another state it's double taxation unless TN doesn't collect any revenue from the general public at all.
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I live in PA. I used to telecommute to a Boulder, CO division of a French (well, worldwide) company. I now telecommute to a Boston, MA division of a California (well, worldwide) company. In both cases they deducted local (ie CO/MA) income tax the first month, then (presumably, after checking with their tax department) refunded it and deducted PA income tax from that point on.

New York is very creative about taxing people, though, so I've to say I'm not surprised. I remember filling out NY state non-resident returns back when that stuff was done with pen and paper. It was worse than the federal form - they basically make you do something like federal income tax twice, first time to determine total income, the second time to determine NY income. They use total income to determine your tax rate. Then, of course, there's NYC tax as well.

The short-term solution is to make sure this is built into your salary. A better solution is to work elsewhere and enjoy NYC on weekends. They'll figure a different way to rip you off, but at leats it's less paperwork that way.

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Re: Double taxation...

it's not just Nude York that's creative.

If I work in any state for 2 weeks or more (count it as 80 hrs), then I have to file in that state. Bet you can't hear me scream about that, can you?

Seems there's some strangely crafted set of laws, that enable this.

Now, when it comes to tele-comuting, it gets even stranger. I like JT, do work all around the globe. I'm not sure how this is going to finally play out, but the only thing I know for sure is, it's going to be ugly.

I'm just waiting for some creative state to say that if I use the telecommunications lines as they traverse that state, I should be required to pay some kind of "infa-structure" support cost while I'm using the network lines in that state.

You know, before long, we'll be taxed out of existence.

I'm of the firm opinion, we should off shore some of our executive management and our state; local and federal legislators.
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