olivia_ton
join:2005-11-10 | reply to Zev0
Re: Good OE Spam Filter?
try out BSpam : »www.bspam.com... thats really a good tool to block spam.. its from the company who came up with RemotePC : »www.remotepc.com |
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CharlizeT
join:2006-01-06
Grand Rapids, MI | reply to jimkyle
I recommend to all to try Spam Bully »www.spambully.com I am absolutely in love with this program. My Spam went from almost 100 per day down to zero. |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| Why didn't you get Popfile? It is free and the orginal Baysian filter. If you want to buy an anti-spam filter than I would suggest purchasing Bit Defender Pro which is one of the top 3 AV and it has an excellent Baysian filter built into its email module.
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Babar
Premium
join:2001-05-09
Washington
| said by Mele20  :Why didn't you get Popfile? It is free and the orginal Baysian filter. 95% of the spam on my wife's Comcast account is of the image variety - the message is an embedded gif. My understanding is that a Bayesian filter is ineffective in this case.
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| Hmm....I would think, but I don't know really, that if she reads her mail in plain text (one should not use HTML for reading) then the filter would get it. Thanks for explaining why you felt Popfile wasn't a good solution. I do know that my friends who use it all report 99.8% filtering success with it after about six months of use and 95% effectiveness from the start. I would have to ask them if they get embedded gifs spam. I don't even know exactly what that is as I read all mail in plain text and reply in plain text also for safety reasons. Plus, spam, I read through the properties tab. I never, ever open directly any email that smells like spam so I'm ignorant about embedded gifs spam.
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atangel
Now What??
Premium
join:2002-02-18
Bronx, NY
| reply to FL Programer
Challenge-response programs like Mail-blcokcan be really really tiresome.
Well, here are other opinions on them:
»Mail-Block
For me, Mailwasher works great. Especially once you get it up to speed. K9 would also be a choice.
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Why I mistrust Zone Labs
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Babar
Premium
join:2001-05-09
Washington
| reply to Mele20
Spam |
said by Mele20 :I would have to ask them if they get embedded gifs spam. I don't even know exactly what that is... Here's an example. The actual spam is a gif image. The extra text is an attempt to get by Bayesian filters. The from and to addresses are both spoofed.
This is from my client - Thunderbird, which I have succesfully filtered to catch about 90% of the crap. Can't do it w/ OE... 
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| Geeez...thanks for the example! I had no idea they were doing that sort of thing to get around the baysian filters. Thunderbird's filter is baysian also.
I'm sure glad I get so little spam. I changed my main address months ago and made it dictionary proof and since then I have gotten no spam at all in it. The only one I get spam in is the one from this site, but only a very small amount.
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mongol
join:2004-06-21
Friendswood, TX
| I just use Pop Peeper. I can look at whats on the server, view the headers or even look at the message. If its spam I can then delete it right there without wasting time downloading it . It comes with skins to make it pretty and a few plugins..:)
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Stem Bolt
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Cleveland, OH
| said by mongol :I just use Pop Peeper. I can look at whats on the server, view the headers or even look at the message. If its spam I can then delete it right there without wasting time downloading it . It comes with skins to make it pretty and a few plugins..:) I use Pop Peeper to do this also. Works out great. Although I have all my e-mail fetched and filtered through my main POP account that scans for viruses and spam, a few pieces of spam manage to get through once in awhile. This where Pop Peeper comes in handy. |
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ken_92030
Premium
join:2005-11-25
Saulsbury, TN
| reply to Babar
said by Babar :Can anyone recommend a good (and preferably free) spam filter for Outlook Express? TIA! I've found using OE message rules and block senders lists does a pretty good job for me. It's intuitive and easy to learn.
I've heard POPfiles is pretty good. Thunderbird didn't empress me but that was a couple of years ago. I wouldn't recommend MailBlocks, I gave it a shot for a few months and then using it.
Good luck which ever way you go. |
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thedip
join:2001-02-09
Beaver Falls, PA
| reply to Babar
When a friend of mine needed an easy-to-use solution for spam filtering for OE, I found Spamihilator ( »www.spamihilator.com/download/index.php ). It seems to work fairly well, and easy to set up. Also free. |
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jpc1989
join:2005-11-11
Las Vegas, NV
| reply to atangel
said by atangel :Challenge-response programs like Mail-blcokcan be really really tiresome. For me, Mailwasher works great. Especially once you get it up to speed. K9 would also be a choice. What gets really tiresome is having to deal with junk email. With the system from »www.mail-block.com, which I use the only person that gets annoyed is the person trying to send me spam. |
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Babar
Premium
join:2001-05-09
Washington
| reply to thedip
said by thedip :When a friend of mine needed an easy-to-use solution for spam filtering for OE, I found Spamihilator ( » www.spamihilator.com/download/index.php ). It seems to work fairly well, and easy to set up. Also free. That one looks very promising! The author has a plug-in for the embedded gif problem. Will check it out later this week.
Thanks!
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Chuck_IV
join:2003-11-18
New Milford, CT | Cloudmark worked well for me, when I used OE. Take a look at that one. |
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Babar
Premium
join:2001-05-09
Washington
| reply to thedip
Thanks again for the suggestion of Spamihilator - it's working quite well on my wife's machine. The optional plug-ins are great, and have solved all her problems. Good find!
»www.spamihilator.com/download/index.php
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thedip
join:2001-02-09
Beaver Falls, PA | reply to Babar
Glad I could help  |
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mhb23re
@cgocable.net
| I've used both K9 and Popfile. My personal findings?
Popfile is more accurate than K9, period. It'll filter out adds & the most arcane spam that K9 just won't find. This is, in all due respect, likely because Robin Keir hasn't updated the (free) K9 program since April/04, and Popfile does upgrade periodically.
K9 has a nicer interface, & it's much easier to go back in time to look at old emails. This gets cumbersome (slow, in other words) once you have several thousand emails in your system, however. Another benefit of K9 is you can set it up to check your mail server WITHOUT downloading the email, & delete offending spam before it's brought to your email client. A good option, but this gets you back to 100% mail inspection, which is why you wanted an antispam program in the first place.
MAJOR DRAWBACK TO POPFILE:
I am speaking from my own personal experience, here: I found when I ran Popfile in the system tray, it tended to lock up my system, requiring a manual reset. Big pain in the @ss, unfortunately. As of this post, I note Popfile has released a new version that might clear this up, however. I've downloaded it and am trying again (fingers crossed!). Again, on first blush, Popfile nailed some spam that breezed through K9, no questions asked.
Again, the above is a personal issue and may be due to conflicts on my own setup. I have read others have had this problem in the past, though, so we'll see if the new version of PF clears up the problem. Oh yeah, and less-experienced users might be intimidated by the Popfile setup. It's pretty straightforward, however, and there's likely PF user groups of FAQs to help a stumped user.
Good luck!
mhb23re
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