Splitpair
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| [General] Some Wilma Shots
3phase xformer bank dropped and wiped out all below. | 
The result. | 
On the ground. | 
The other end. | 
Lookin open about 600 feet out. | 
What was now is down. | 
In with the power sweet! | 
CATV into BST | 
Now thats ready access. ;-) | 
Your DSL is on BP 12. | 
Not easy to break these. | 
Bet this made one heck of a light show. | 
235 Kv lines | 
Eh Bob I found something of yours. |
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johnqpublic
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Xanadu
| Were those images taken in Broward County? Those concrete utility poles were snapped like that up here in Boynton as well. I wonder what kind of rating they have (if any) as far as wind load is concerned.
Thanks for the shots.
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Rob
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Kendall, FL | reply to Splitpair
FPL's failure to properly maintain their wood poles have caused many residents to be without power. I hope they get slammed with some hefty fees. |
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mikes60
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November 6th, @02:08PM
| said by Rob  :FPL's failure to properly maintain their wood poles have caused many residents to be without power. I hope they get slammed with some hefty fees. And I'm sure you have all the proper documentation of their failure.
Besides what one woman "claimed" in a Sun-Sentinal article I aw today.
The picture of a concrete pole broken in half shows how powerful the winds actually were.
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Rob
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| said by mikes60 :said by Rob :FPL's failure to properly maintain their wood poles have caused many residents to be without power. I hope they get slammed with some hefty fees. And I'm sure you have all the proper documentation of their failure. Besides what one woman "claimed" in a Sun-Sentinal article I aw today. The picture of a concrete pole broken in half shows how powerful the winds actually were. Well not a woman. But a man...
»www.sun-sentinel.com/news/column···news-col
If it's true, then my comment stands.
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mikes60
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November 6th, @02:39PM
| said by Rob :said by mikes60 :said by Rob :FPL's failure to properly maintain their wood poles have caused many residents to be without power. I hope they get slammed with some hefty fees. And I'm sure you have all the proper documentation of their failure. Besides what one woman "claimed" in a Sun-Sentinal article I aw today. The picture of a concrete pole broken in half shows how powerful the winds actually were. Well not a woman. But a man... » www.sun-sentinel.com/news/column···news-colIf it's true, then my comment stands. In your original comment, you failed to say, "if it's true"
I have one personal rule- never assume newspaper columnists and politicians are telling the story accurately. One has to sell papers, the other has to get re-elected.
Not exactly the best reason for unbiased comments.
By the way, here's the one from a woman:»www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/···eadlines
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Rob
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| said by mikes60 :said by Rob :said by mikes60 :said by Rob :FPL's failure to properly maintain their wood poles have caused many residents to be without power. I hope they get slammed with some hefty fees. And I'm sure you have all the proper documentation of their failure. Besides what one woman "claimed" in a Sun-Sentinal article I aw today. The picture of a concrete pole broken in half shows how powerful the winds actually were. Well not a woman. But a man... » www.sun-sentinel.com/news/column···news-colIf it's true, then my comment stands. In your original comment, you failed to say, " if it's true"I have one personal rule- never assume newspaper columnists and politicians are telling the story accurately. One has to sell papers, the other has to get re-elected. Not exactly the best reason for unbiased comments. By the way, here's the one from a woman:» www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/···eadlines Whether I said "if it's true" or not, means nothing.
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Splitpair
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said by mikes60 : And I'm sure you have all the proper documentation of their failure. No but I have seen it.
The picture of a concrete pole broken in half shows how powerful the winds actually were.
Not when it was pulled over by a defective wood pole supporting a transformer bank.
This is the base of a failed pole that was supporting 235 Kv transmission lines. Nice eh?
Wayne
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lazsheriff
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| I first hand believe FPL has not inspected their wooden poles. My neighborhood is filled with old rotten wooden poles that always get knocked down and not necessarily in the strongest of winds.
A couple of tropical storms ago a wooden pole on my lawn fell onto my driveway, not during the winds but about 4 days later causing my block to go without power for 2 days and me without power for about 2 weeks. The replacement pole looks it was picked up on the street on the way here.
I agree that politicians and newspapers aren't always credible but CEO's aren't any better.
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Splitpair
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Poles 101
A failed defective pole that was supporting a transformer. | 
How a good pole should fail when over stressed. | 
More like a tornado than a hurricane |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Covington, LA | I have a picture of what's left of a CO out in Lake Catherine, La. It's completely gone except for the support beams.
I have some pics of the storm damage in the New Orleans area but haven't gotten around to uploading them. |
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Mizzat
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Re: [General] Some Wilma Shots
said by Splitpair :From the trenches. Nice, wayne. I bet they gave you about 2 hours of tech time to fix it, eh? I knew those untangling skills would come in handy when I grew up! |
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joako
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All I know is that the only time in the past few years that my phone service has gone down was about 3 years ago when a crew dug up a wire. Bellsouth fixed it within a few hours the same day.
Every time a hurricane passes through here we are wtihout power. Between coral way and bird road east of SW 57 ave there is a massive power problem, their power goes out even with a heavy thunderstorm, our power isnt as bad because they restore it quickly, only because the same mains feeds a hospital.
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Zoder
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Miami, FL
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November 8th, @10:28AM
| I agree with Wayne. Not enough maintenance is being done by FPL.
Did anyone else read the Miami Herald today? There was a front page article about FPL seeking a 16% fuel charge increase. »www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13107471.htm
It sounds like the PSC chairman is in FPLs pocket.
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Technically, the fuel-increase surcharge is not a ''rate increase'' -- a point that PSC Chairman Braulio Baez emphasized Monday, saying that the improper use of rate-related terms is a ''pet peeve'' of his. Baez helped lead the charge in July to tack a $1.68 monthly surcharge on FPL customers' bills to help pay for storm damage last year. That charge, to last through February 2008, includes $34 million to reimburse FPL for ''lost revenue'' -- money it lost out on because it wasn't providing electricity to blacked-out homes after storms.
What the h**l is that? Maybe if corporate paid to keep their plant in better condition customers wouldn't have been without power for so long.
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The group is also protesting FPL's decision to use $25 million in fuel-recovery money to repair steam-generator pipes for one of its nuclear generators in Port St. Lucie.
''It doesn't make sense. What they're basically asking for is a tune-up, and they're claiming it should be paid with gas money,'' Twomey said. ``They should pay this out of their base rates, not take even more from the consumer's pockets. People are paying enough already.''
FPL's Swank said the pipe-fixing expense is fuel-related because, if left unfixed, the nuclear plant will become less efficient, forcing the company to buy more power on the open market.
This goes along with their philosophy of plant maintenance. Why have the repair cut into our profits when we can get the PSC to add a surcharge to customers?
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Baez said he wasn't sure if the PSC would consider another such fee, pegged to Hurricane Wilma's damage. ''I don't know what to foresee,'' he said.
How much do we want to bet there will be? |
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normat
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Up here I've noticed most of the polls that came down were north/south runs. I was thinking the added force across the lines helped bring them down.
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Zoder
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Miami, FL
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Forget the woman. What about the other person in that article who said that a tree has been growing out of a pole and they've been reporting it for 3 years? Or the contractors FP&L hired to remove the downed polls that said they were some of the most rotten polls they have ever seen? There were several more examples, but you get the point. |
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LightSpan
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Georgetown, KY
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I have seen it first hand,all the poles i used to have to climb(one of the few who did:D).Shell rot was terrible on most of the poles.Most of the pole's look okay but are rotten below the ground,as in the pics Splitpair showed.Before i used to climb i would take my long straight blade screw and jab the pole below ground level,and if it went all the way down to the handle thats bad,but i use to climb it anyway cause you couldnt get a ladder to it,or a bucket truck.Remember those days in the ranches Wanye:D. |
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RJ44
join:2001-10-19
Atlanta, GA
| said by LightSpan :Before i used to climb i would take my long straight blade screw and jab the pole below ground level,and if it went all the way down to the handle thats bad,but i use to climb it anyway cause you couldnt get a ladder to it,or a bucket truck. ::shaking my head:: Bad move, very bad. I always took the safety motto very literally, ain't nothing getting me up a rotten pole on hooks, sorry. There's always some other way to get the job done that doesn't involve you ending up in the ER. |
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TipRing2
join:2001-10-22
New Orleans, LA
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Car on roof | 
Cell site | 
Kitchen |
I remember back in my "rookie" days I was replacing a drop from a pole in someone's back yard. I was on my hooks and ready to cut the old drop. I thought the pole was leaning toward the house. It turns out the the drop was pulling the pole towards the house. When I cut it I went on the wildest ride of my life. It went from a 7 to 10 degree lean towards the house to a 7 - 10 degree lean away from the house. The only reason it didn't go all the way down was the power drop. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Covington, LA | Everyone's done some variant of that. Usually involving a mid-span clamp though.
I couldn't stomach working in St. Bernard after Katrina. The smell was just too awful in some places. The dust and such burned up my sinuses. |
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