Turbonuim
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Re: Cool!
and whos fault would that be, eh? secure your WAP and we wont have a problem. |
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nixen
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| said by Turbonuim  :and whos fault would that be, eh? secure your WAP and we wont have a problem. If they shipped them in a "default secure" configuration in the first place, Joe Clueless Home-user wouldn't be such a wireless menace in the first place.
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wilburyan
join:2002-08-01 | If they did that then "Joe Clueless" wouldn't be able to figure out how to get the damn thing going.
And it's not because it's hard... most of the time people just refuse to even try... like they are intimidated by it. |
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nixen
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| said by wilburyan :If they did that then "Joe Clueless" wouldn't be able to figure out how to get the damn thing going. And it's not because it's hard... most of the time people just refuse to even try... like they are intimidated by it. Sometimes, it just makes sense that there be a certain level of knowledge required in "order to play". The home gear is so dead-simple to configure that, if people are too addled to figure it out, we really shouldn't be doing anything to make it easier for them to get on the net.
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JamesPC
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you wont sell anything with that mentality...in business its all about making the most money...for them to do that they must sell the largest amount of product they can...so when they leave the default setting the way they are now. Netgear eliminates a couple of things...one the user (buyer) is pleased because he plugged it in and it worked... user not calling customer help... and most importantly he is pleased with the simplicty of the product so he will decide to by another product.
Business 101... |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | reply to nixen
Re: Cool!
your the guy that playes with the snake and asks why it bit you...Common Sense |
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nixen
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Re: simplicity
It's like the Energizer bunny: consumers (are allowed to) get dumber and dumber and dumber...
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tucekoi
join:2005-10-28
Milton, FL
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Re: Cool!
They shipped it in "default open" configuration so that YOU can access it. Because if they shipped it in "default secure" configuration you wont be ale to access it. Most "Joe Clueless" are clueless that you need to authenticate to access it.  |
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nixen
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| said by tucekoi :They shipped it in "default open" configuration so that YOU can access it. Because if they shipped it in "default secure" configuration you wont be ale to access it. Most "Joe Clueless" are clueless that you need to authenticate to access it. That's what: A) the big green (or whatever color) three-step sticker on the top is for; and/or, B) what the 5 page instruction booklet is for. I still say that, if people can't handle A or B, they shouldn't be allowed on the Internet in the first damn place.
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Kilted FAG
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| Maybe if you would let people use the internet to look up the instructions on how to hook up the TV, they would not be forcing you to do all the wiring for them. Not sure what the page 5 reference was to. One could probably find some reading courses on that precious internet of yours...... |
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nixen
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| said by Kilted FAG :
Maybe if you would let people use the internet to look up the instructions on how to hook up the TV, they would not be forcing you to do all the wiring for them. Not sure what the page 5 reference was to. One could probably find some reading courses on that precious internet of yours......
Wow...
•"hook up the TV" when the discussion concerned a WAP?
•"forcing you to do all the wiring for them"??? What the hell are you smoking?
•"page 5 reference" when what was said was "5 page instruction booklet".
Good reading comprehension skills there...
Besides, if someone can't read a small, simple instruction booklet that comes with a device (hence the reference to "5 page instruction booklet"), what makes you think that they would bother or be able to read something they found online? Given the number of questions I see in the tech forums that could have been answered by a very rudimentary search of Google (or other good search engine), it's rather evident that a lot of people can't or won't use search tools as a resource.
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