 drunkgoat
join:2004-04-18
| reply to sm00nie Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec
Well this is positivly disapointing 
Of course Rogers wouldn't be so kinda as to really inform us of this, they hide it in some seldom viewed page.
Atleast we can all take comfort in the knowledge that Rogers will be fair to their customers and minus whatever money they are saving from scrapping usenet from our bills.
Oh yeah wait this is Rogers... the same company that cut our speeds in half without warning or price adjustment, got us all to buy their modems, then capped us and took away our fast usenet access, and now they are taking away our slow usenet access.
We definatly need some more competition in this industry, I hope bell picks up and actually challenges Rogers.
Right now this is a market where the consumer has little choice and therefore little power. |
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  adam242
@cable.rogers
| "Right now this is a market where the consumer has little choice and therefore little power."
You're kidding right? Have you seen how many other providers there are out there? There are dozens of dsl providers. In my area alone i think i can choose from about 20.
If newsgroups are so important then pay the $15.00 a month a go with a 3rd party. You know you are saving thousands of dollars with what you are downloading. And if you only use text groups which considcering your complaining is unlikely. Use google groups or one of the free text only servers. There are a few out there. |
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 CarpetMunch
join:2005-10-06 Beverly Hills, CA
| A little pattern is emerging. Rogers needs to find way to improve customer experience and reducing cost so:
if webspace is important to you, go somewhere else. if downloading is important to you, go somewhere else. if ftp server is important to you, go somewhere else. if email is important to you, go somewhere else. if websurfing is important to you, go somewhere else |
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  pulp39 Premium join:2003-01-28 Ottawa, ON
2 edits | reply to sbrook Yep, there we go. I was one of the few who vehemently screamed that this Giganews "improved newsgroup service" was crap and it was only going to get worse, the beginning of the end no doubt!
I rest my case...

Whenever Ted says "improved"... look out!!! -- www.theleafssuck.com |
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 AT1
join:2003-03-05 Sedalia, MO
| reply to sbrook Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15
Customers with a continuing desire to read or post Usenet text messages can do so through Google Groups. This is an excellent resource that provides a searchable archive of every text message ever posted to Usenet. »groups.google.ca
Additionally, customers can go to companies like Giganews (our supplier up until the point when we discontinue Usenet) who offer a full Usenet service on a paid basis. »www.giganews.com/ »search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8···e+Canada |
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  sbrook Premium,Mod join:2001-12-14 H0H 0H0 | Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec
Ha! Google's newsgroups service is a mixture of good and bad. |
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  zaptor99
join:2004-05-02 Toronto, ON
| Sure, we can use google, or pay for GigaNews. Sure, we can pay and host our ad-free personal sites Sure, we can stop downloading from BT.
But, don't we deserve a price cut if we are not provided these services anymore?
By the way, who can I complain to besides the president? CRTC, Silvermen helps? BBB? Global Defenders? CTV consumer alert? |
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  sbrook Premium,Mod join:2001-12-14 H0H 0H0
·Rogers Hi-Speed
Host: Rogers Bell Canada
| CRTC doesn't get involved with the internet service providers even if they are cable operators or telcos.
The BBB is useless ... Rogers could buy up the BBB
The others ... yup.
Otherwise, the Ontario Ministry of Consumer and Business Affairs, The Federal Industry Minister. |
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  zaptor99
join:2004-05-02 Toronto, ON | Thanks sbrook, that will be my assigment for the weekend. I'll try TheStar and The Globe too  I hope other people do the same. |
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  pulp39 Premium join:2003-01-28 Ottawa, ON
1 edit | reply to sbrook All you crazy sonsaguns using Ted's DPS are to be blamed.  Here's my take, Ted is throttling torrents and discontinuing newsgroup access to save BW for his precious DPS. What else is next for Ted to taketh away. I say, boycott his crap DPS, get rid of it and tell people to use Bell's. This DPS project is killing our internet experience!  -- www.theleafssuck.com |
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  sbrook Premium,Mod join:2001-12-14 H0H 0H0 | Since the DPS issues are upstream traffic and usenet use generates downstream traffic, I don't think this is a DPS problem. This is far more likely to be a revenue issue. |
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  toronto12323
@cable.rogers | reply to sbrook So why would I stay with Rogers? I just checked out Bell's site, no data transfer limit. No binaries, but neither will Rogers after December.
That would mean satellite TV, I guess. |
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 cc86
join:2004-02-24 Waterloo, ON
| reply to sbrook Go Rogers, always giving us less for our $.
Not surprised they're doing this, all they care about right now is their stupid phone. I receive at least 1 ad per week about their phone and it's not even available here yet, and won't be until they get it working right in Toronto. 
No point in calling to complain, guarantee they haven't notified their CSR's about this. They still haven't notified their CSR's about the upgrade to extreme.  |
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 drunkgoat
join:2004-04-18
| reply to adam242 Newsgroups are important, and I have had a pay provider since rogers switch to giganews FYI.
It was nice to be able to fall back on giga news for when you were trying to access a post that was 55 days old and no other provider had it.
Look at how other american cable ISP are bumping thier users speeds up, alot of cities are getting 10/2 and soon to be 15/2.
Also there is little consumer power in this industry, if the consumers had any power then rogers wouldn't be able to dick the consumer atleast once a year.
Rogers get your game together. |
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 st7860
join:2004-05-13 San Francisco, CA | reply to sbrook Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15
well.. if DSL is not available in your area then... I think 3web provides news service and 3web uses Rogers. |
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 darrylr
join:2003-02-10 Nepean, ON | Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec
I don't see how 3Web will offer newsgroups for their rogers cable customers will they? I would never switch to 3Web anyway.
-Darryl |
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 st7860
join:2004-05-13 San Francisco, CA | Yes of course 3web wouldn't provide access to Rogers customers, but if you are using 3web cable service, except for 3webs terrible phone support, the service itself is technically the same except you would be using 3web's mail and usenet services. |
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  baystboi
@sympatico.ca
| reply to drunkgoat Who in the US is offering speeds such as 10/2 or 15/2? Checked all of the big guys... Adelphia, Cox, Comcast, Time Warner Cable... all of them tend to max out around 5-6 down, with the exception of Time Warner's Road Runner which can be up to 8 in some areas. |
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 redi
join:2002-11-03 | reply to y2dan i signed up with www.newshosting.com and can get 5mbit downstream from their servers. unlimited downloads for $15usd /month. |
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 Slapnuts
join:2002-11-14 canada | reply to baystboi Optimium Online in New Jersey is bumping up their speeds to 15/2 for no extra charge, and 30/2 for $14.95 extra. |
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