TKJunkMail
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Re: Because We Can
Verizon is selling browsing and email for their EVDO offering. They aren't selling a p2p music downloading machine or a VOIP machine, etc. If you don't like that - use another product.
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chesney09
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clubs: | THAN DON'T MARKET IT AS UNLIMITED BROADBAND! That is the ONLY point everyone is making reagrding this issue. Sell it and limit it how ever you want.. But then don't claim it it UNLIMITED! PLAIN AND SIMPLE. |
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rachelsfx
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Pensacola, FL | reply to TKJunkMail
Finally, someone without this "hate Corporate America" attitude on this board! |
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stickfigure
join:2002-06-11
El Cajon, CA
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said by TKJunkMail  :Verizon is selling browsing and email for their EVDO offering. They aren't selling a p2p music downloading machine or a VOIP machine, etc. If you don't like that - use another product. "Speed
Quickly download complex files and view email attachments with average download speeds of 400-700 kbps capable of reaching up to 2.0Mbps." straight off Verizon's website: »www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobi···view.jsp
I'm not sure of your understanding of "Complex Files" but it sure as hell doesn't equal browsing/email and nothing else.
I think what everyone is frustrated about here Tomkcr is that they sell the product as "Unlimited" and then in the small print disclose it as "well as long as your only browsing or looking at email...." |
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TKJunkMail
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said by rachelsfx :Finally, someone without this "hate Corporate America" attitude on this board! And boy do I get hammered for it on a regular basis. But I laugh all the way to the bank as my portfolio grows.
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rachelsfx
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en102
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I agree - sell it, push it, promote it as it can do everything. 'Unlimited Broadband Access' - only you're limited to do narrowband tasks.
No VoIP
No streaming
No downloading videos/mp3's
I was thinking about purchasing this (or something like it) for my work. However, I need to be able to run X/Motif over VPN for monitoring, and remote desktop.
Just in case anyone thinks that its only Verizon - I checked Cingular's out, and it has a similar EULA. I thought about Sprint (haven't checked its EULA), however store sales reps assure me (yeah right!) that there's no limits, and can be used for VoIP, streaming, etc. |
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Anonymous
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Maybe you two should read what is this all about. Yeah I hate people like you but that's not the point.
The point is you can sell your product but without false advertising. |
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G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
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Hahaha... What a pair of LIARS..Please explain how you are 'laughing all the way to the bank' when your 5 year returns on those companies you 'support' average -50% rate of return?
Comcast : 5 year return - -28%
Verizon : 5 year return - -44%
SBC : 5 year return - -58%
Hahahahaha... busted.. liars..
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packetscan
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clubs: | reply to TKJunkMail
Yea keep your money in a company that sells a product that no one is obvioulsy going to want.. Excepect for the "few" businesses that sign up.
Use another product... We will!
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TKJunkMail
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| said by packetscan :Yea keep your money in a company that sells a product that no one is obvioulsy going to want.. Excepect for the "few" businesses that sign up. Use another product... We will! Who said I had any money in Verizon? All I said was I had a portfolio that was making very good returns, which I do.
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JoeOnSunset
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Ormond Beach, FL | Cool, thanks for sharing. Now, would you mind piping down so the rest of us can discuss the TOPIC? Thanks. |
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Combat Chuck
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said by G_Poobah :Hahaha... What a pair of LIARS..Please explain how you are 'laughing all the way to the bank' when your 5 year returns on those companies you 'support' average -50% rate of return? Comcast : 5 year return - -28% Verizon : 5 year return - -44% SBC : 5 year return - -58% Hahahahaha... busted.. liars.. I wasn't aware that every other company in America went out of business between 3 pm and now. Good to know.
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Combat Chuck
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said by JoeOnSunset :Cool, thanks for sharing. Now, would you mind piping down so the rest of us can discuss the TOPIC? Thanks. I love how you guys try to drag people thru the mud in an off topic manner and then accuse them of being off topic when they successfully defend themselves.
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tapeloop
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| said by Combat Chuck :I love how you guys try to drag people thru the mud in an off topic manner and then accuse them of being off topic when they successfully defend themselves. Hey Chuck...do you know you're being off-topic by calling out the people who are being off-topic while accusing others of being of being off-topic? 
OT: What happened to Radical Ed???
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VirtualLarry
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said by TKJunkMail :And boy do I get hammered for it on a regular basis. But I laugh all the way to the bank as my portfolio grows. Did you ever stop to consider the ethical implications of collecting corporate "blood money", because of their (often illegal - as in this particular case of apparent outright false advertising), and attempt to understand the disconnect that you apparently have, with the general populations' problems with this sort of grossly unethical corporate behavior? You're getting rich, by effectively helping corporations to sell out and destroy the rights and liberties of fellow American citizens. Now that's something to take to the bank for sure... 
(Pure capitalism == pure greed, without regard to the side-effects that such a system causes, which lead to an inherently unsustainable future for all of us.)
PS. You sure change usernames a lot, don't you, Old_Repub? |
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adsldog
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'Unlimited Broadband Access' This means you can log on any time you want for as long as you want, not Unlimited Bandwidth that is not what it states. And yes it is standard with most all ISP's, read what you are agreeing to and if you don't like it then don't sign up.:D |
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Although the majority of posts have some very compelling definitions of "unlimited" I think the point has been overlooked.
Tom, you made a valid comment on another thread that has been ignored here '»Verizon EVDO: Unlimited, Isn't' . Verizon's website claims (unless updated recently) "Unlimited Broadband ACCESS" To me means I can log on as many times as I want w/o incurring an additional charge. They also mention "Unlimited Monthly Home Airtime Usage" Which I understand to mean that I won't be charged for the amount of airtime I use when logging in as many times as I wish. What I do not see mentioned is "unlimited data-transfer".
I can agree that the advertising can be misleading (it is easy to assume that one could login as many times as they want and d/l as much as they want for as long as they want, when just glancing at the ad) -especially if one hopes the golden goose is real, however, I think the ire resulting from this should be shouldered upon those whose misinterpreted the advertisements, We as consumers have the right and responsibilty to ask. If then verbally mislead, Verizon (or it's CSR agent is responsible) No one likes paying for "x" and recieving "y" - especially in a proven bait-n-switch. But I fail to see that here (I am not infallible, I can and have been mislead by my own interpretations- but since I happen to work with small print for a bank and am used to looking for it) |
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Combat Chuck
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said by tapeloop :Hey Chuck...do you know you're being off-topic by calling out the people who are being off-topic while accusing others of being of being off-topic? I was just pointing out the irony; I don't really care if people are off topic.
said by tapeloop :OT: What happened to Radical Ed??? Edward Wong Hau Pepelu Tivrusky the 4th went bai bai. Den will be taking her place for now.
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JoeOnSunset
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said by Combat Chuck :I love how you guys try to drag people thru the mud in an off topic manner and then accuse them of being off topic when they successfully defend themselves. I think you're imagining conspiracies. I wasn't participating in the argument at all. I'm just a guy passing though, who thought your comment about how great your personal investment strategy is was really, really lame. But I admit, it's true: it was hypocritical of me to admonish you for being off-topic, but I thought it was gentler than what I really wanted to admonish you for. |
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