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pablo4
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join:2004-08-11
Kanata, ON

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Storm.ca

Anybody here use storm.ca wireless internet.

I want to know what to expect in the way of ping times and packet loss.

Thanks

Also is there a good MTU to use for this connection?

MacGyver
Bell Sucks
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join:2001-10-14
Orleans, ON

Re: Storm.ca

We have a few reviews on Storm: »Company entry - Storm Internet

Solar1um
Unlimited
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join:2005-01-10
Lévis - QC
Reviews are ... mmm bad ...
good luck with your isp !

Solar1um
Unlimited
Premium
join:2005-01-10
Lévis - QC
Just curious about this isp ... can you traceroute for me

www.google.ca
www.free.fr
www.geocities.co.jp

Thanks !
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Magma Communications - Download @ 300 kB/s - Upload @ 80 kB/s - Great ping - Great route

pablo4
Proud Owner Of The Cornballer

join:2004-08-11
Kanata, ON
I was at a friends house who had it. Next time i am over i will update.

Semaphore
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join:2003-11-18
Arnprior On.

Re: Storm.ca

Storm is a large Star topology WISP. They use a 'custom built' radio loaded with a "Carl Net" type polling client. In a simple form the AP polls all of the subscribers. So latency is consistent but can be higher than other Wisp's that use 802.11b type collision based radios - which of course can also provide much less consistent latency than a polling system does.
Their network is almost entirely Line Of Site, however they've recently started small deployments of Non Line of Site, using (I believe) Trango equipment. Which is a reasonable NLOS manufacturer. Another benefit of a polling AP is that packet loss is typically very low, but if you're expecting DSL level latency then you won't find it in wireless.
The reviews on this site are dated and limited. I feel the reviewers were expecting DSL type latency (Lag) and were not prepared to accept the reality of Wireless - you will see outages, and you are susceptible to interference. They may also have had substandard installs. Most of the work I've seen by this company are quite well done.
If you have no other choice but Satellite, then WISP is the way to go... if you have a multitude of options then you may want to consider them first.
BTW: I do not work for them in any way.
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www.gozoom.ca

twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON


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Re: Storm.ca

said by Semaphore See Profile :

Storm is a large Star topology WISP. They use a 'custom built' radio loaded with a "Carl Net" type polling client. In a simple form the AP polls all of the subscribers. So latency is consistent but can be higher than other Wisp's that use 802.11b type collision based radios - which of course can also provide much less consistent latency than a polling system does.
Their network is almost entirely Line Of Site, however they've recently started small deployments of Non Line of Site, using (I believe) Trango equipment. Which is a reasonable NLOS manufacturer. Another benefit of a polling AP is that packet loss is typically very low, but if you're expecting DSL level latency then you won't find it in wireless.
The reviews on this site are dated and limited. I feel the reviewers were expecting DSL type latency (Lag) and were not prepared to accept the reality of Wireless - you will see outages, and you are susceptible to interference. They may also have had substandard installs. Most of the work I've seen by this company are quite well done.
If you have no other choice but Satellite, then WISP is the way to go... if you have a multitude of options then you may want to consider them first.
BTW: I do not work for them in any way.
While that may be true of storm, not all wireless isps suck or have inherent lag. I constantly have better ping times to nearly every site then most DSL or Cable users. It really depends if your isp deploys the technology properly and also what technology they use.
Pinging dslreports.com [209.123.109.175] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=50
Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=50
Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=50
Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 209.123.109.175:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 26ms, Maximum = 28ms, Average = 26ms
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Semaphore
Premium
join:2003-11-18
Arnprior On.

Re: Storm.ca

The WISP pulls you through at least one tower to their NOC, in some cases of the large Star topology WISPs that may be 5, or 10 hops to the NOC, maybe more. If the WISP's Internet feed is equivalent to the DSL ISP's Internet feed then the WISP will have more LAG... there's more hops to the net. In most cases this may be 1ms per tower, but it may be significantly more if they are congested, experiencing interference, or doing significant Non-Line of Site or polling.

From DSL Tier 1 Provider: ping www.dslreports.com
PING dslreports.com (209.123.109.175) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from www.dslreports.com (209.123.109.175): icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=27.5 ms
64 bytes from www.dslreports.com (209.123.109.175): icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=22.7 ms
64 bytes from www.dslreports.com (209.123.109.175): icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=22.4 ms
64 bytes from www.dslreports.com (209.123.109.175): icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=23.0 ms
64 bytes from www.dslreports.com (209.123.109.175): icmp_seq=4 ttl=50 time=22.6 ms
64 bytes from www.dslreports.com (209.123.109.175): icmp_seq=5 ttl=50 time=22.0 ms

--- dslreports.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 4999ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 22.037/23.411/27.572/1.894 ms, pipe 2

Four hops into a Non Line of Site WISP : ping www.dslreports.com

Pinging dslreports.com [209.123.109.175] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=46
Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=46
Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=46
Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=46

Ping statistics for 209.123.109.175:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 33ms, Maximum = 36ms, Average = 34ms
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www.gozoom.ca

pwn2009
Powdered Toast Man
Premium
join:2004-03-20
ComeByChance
McFly appears to be using it also...
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