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join:2004-06-28 Honolulu, HI | selling cpu cycles... i heard about it... i just dont see people doing it, is it just a concept... cuz i think it doesnt make much sense economically | |
|  |  |  |   Logan 5 Some people go WAY over the top Premium,MVM join:2001-05-25 The WasteLAN
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1 edit | Ethics and morals George, these people selling CPU Cycles are IMHO no different then those who won an XBOX 360 from the Mountain Dew contest and sold it on EBAY for $1000.....
It's the idea that some would:
1) Choose to profit from such an activity by selling their PC's cycles
and
2) Choose to profit from such an activity by buying PC cycles for gaining standing in the stats with little or no regard for the science. They didn't earn the credits, they purchased them.....
SURE , the work get's done, but if someone is truly that lazy to purchase standing & recognition and they are not doing it to better the science then WTF business do they have of participating if they do not beleive in the work that's being done??
Ex... For the cost of renting 100 PC's it would probably be cheaper to buy the barebones parts and make a Crunchenstein type of blade based system....
-- 2004-2006 Chief of Operations & BoD member for The Crunchenstein Project | |
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| Re: selling cpu cycles... said by playbl162 :I'm sensitive to many ethic and moral issues. If, someone wants to sell the cpu cycles and that speeds up the process for a cure or a medicine to be found, I don't see anything wrong with it. How is it speeding anything up?? The science is still getting done at the same speed, the only difference is that the buyer of the extra production gets a stat boost that they'd never otherwise and that's not fair to all of us who have spent vast amounts of time and effort for years and earned each and every credit and what comes along with them. -- 2004-2006 Chief of Operations & BoD member for The Crunchenstein Project | |
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| Re: selling cpu cycles...
said by playbl162 :However, Logan, my friend, I could care less about stats and points. Results returned, help Scientists find answers. If, someone purchases 100 machines for 30 days of work and it's dedicated to a legitimate program, it's better than those machines sitting idle. Logan, I mean no disrespect. I understand and respect your way of looking at this. As long as there could be a way if people wanted to purchase time/machines philanthropically of preventing them from gaining false stats, then I agree with you 1000% that the science should come first and foremost. -- 2004-2006 Chief of Operations & BoD member for The Crunchenstein Project | |
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2 edits | Re: selling cpu cycles... Yeah there's really multiple points to this question.
1) buying already crunched credits - which berkeley stopped doing via "merging accounts" at request.
2) buying the use of a computer's time - to do whatever you want with it, and in this case it's to run Seti (or any DC project for that matter).
The reasoning behind door number 2 could also have multiples:
a) to gain stats for your personal embellishment. b) to increase the probability that you would be "the one" to find an actual signal. (Or in the case of other projects, the cure, or the crack, or whatever.
There are various morals surrounding each of the above, and any one person could have differing views on what they deem is okay versus what is not.
BBR, as a general rule, does not condone the purchasing of already crunched work units. However, it has in the past seen it's members "share" their power for various causes. Sometimes "payback" occurs, and sometimes none is required. It's up to those making the deal.
- FM -- DCExec Member, Member of 'StarFire Seven' & Undisputed BBR Karaoke Champion! | |
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3 edits | Re: selling cpu cycles... said by grobinette :There may be companies, researchers, whoever out there that would pay for the CPU power to get a project done and I don't see anything wrong with that. If a large corporation wants to make a decision to crunch a particular project on their PC's and they can make a little money selling CPU time, that is also a valid choice. I agree with ya... see above. However we all know unfortunately that for every 5 people that have honest intentions of helping the science by buying cycles, there are going to be 1 or 2 that have less honorable motives for doing it and THATS where I probably have the biggest problem with the concept of buying/selling cycles....it's just too easy and anonymous to abuse it.... -- 2004-2006 Chief of Operations & BoD member for The Crunchenstein Project | |
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