  Zzzz64
@verizon.net
| verizon starting to cap newsgroups
Has anyone noticed the newsgroups are getting very slow? Verizon changed their TOS on November 23 to include this:
We also reserve the right in our sole discretion, with or without notice to you, to modify or restrict the bandwidth available to download content from our Usenet Newsgroup services.
I can't seem to get much more than 150Kbs down (even with 4 channels open) now. A few weeks ago my connection was always maxed out.  |
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  hobgoblin Sortof Agoblin Premium join:2001-11-25 Orchard Park, NY clubs: | Welcome to the real world.
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  CCNnorthcali
join:2004-03-07 Tempe, AZ clubs: | reply to Zzzz64 Well at some hours it takes 5-6 threads to max out my 1200kbps speeds. Did you try a program that lets you open up 8 threads? About how much did you download before it started doing this? |
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 Phroz
join:2005-11-23 Lewiston, ME
| reply to Zzzz64 My speeds dropped off along time ago, maybe 10 months or so. I can still max out my line by opening multiple connections, but a single connection won't get me any more than 60 kB/s at most now.
Well I can't get any more than 10 kB/s right now, but that's a completely different issue. |
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 ohyaknow
join:2005-01-28 | Lewiston maine ! |
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  pende_tim Premium join:2004-01-04 Andover, NJ | reply to CCNnorthcali can you recommend such a program? (free is best) |
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  rideboarder welcome to the social Premium join:2003-07-28 Snohomish, WA clubs:
1 edit | reply to Zzzz64 Welcome to 2004...It's been going on for almost a year now, so it's nothing new...Sometimes you get full speed (if you're lucky) and sometimes you don't....It has been getting worse the past few months, but if you get about 10 downloads going at the same time, you will still get full speed.
edit: However it is NOT capped. |
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 Insder There never was a second I in my name Premium join:2005-04-27 Salem, MA
1 edit | I agree (that it is NOT capped), late last night (12 or 1 ish at night), I'd be getting 300-350 kb/sec. Right now I'm getting 150 kb/sec with 8 connections. Grabit is a good program that allows 8 connections. -- The one, the only, the Insder. :: Verizon Online DSL (2793/719) and Deer Alpha Firefox! |
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  Zzzz64
@70.109.x.x
| reply to Zzzz64 Verizon says in their terms of service that they only want people to use a max of five channels. Will they do anything if I use more?
They really need to allocate more bandwidth to the news servers...it almost seems like they are sabotaging their news service. I've also been getting tons of incompletes. |
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  bobby5984
@verizon.ne
| You'll get a connection error that says too many connections open. THey had a hardware malfunction a few days ago that affected completeness. Otherwise, I haven't had any problems with articles being incomplete, and speed goes up and down thru out the day. |
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  CryMeAnOcean
@comcast.net
thumbs down from: TJ_665 
| reply to Zzzz64 You "Verizon People" sure complain a lot!
Most of you guys are on the Cheepo $29.95 plan with the newsserver included! I would happy to have that!
Check my bill out. Comcast HSI only $60.95/month +$20/month for the Newsserver= Better than $80 a month!
You poor bastard! I'll just sit here and cry my eye's out thinking about your 150/kb sec newsserver downloads! |
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  StarFish267
join:2005-11-25 Fort Worth, TX | reply to CryMeAnOcean Re: verizon starting to cap newsgroups
»groups.google.com/ |
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 bgraham
join:2001-03-15 Smithtown, NY | reply to Zzzz64 OOPS! I have been running 8 connections with Grabit on and off for over a month and Verizon has never sent out the "newsgroups police". Do they care if you only have 8 connections for a couple of hours 2 or 3 times a week. |
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  Shamayim I already have a Messiah. Premium join:2002-09-23
| reply to CryMeAnOcean said by CryMeAnOcean :
You "Verizon People" sure complain a lot!
Most of you guys are on the Cheepo $29.95 plan with the newsserver included! I would happy to have that!
Check my bill out. Comcast HSI only $60.95/month +$20/month for the Newsserver= Better than $80 a month!
You poor bastard! I'll just sit here and cry my eye's out thinking about your 150/kb sec newsserver downloads! WTF is it to YOU???? I'll never understand why OUTSIDERS come into our group with their panties in a knot because we want to get the most out of the service we pay for!
Do we go into their group and complain to them about whatever it is they're bitching about? -- "tick...tick...tick..." »www.jtf.org/ |
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  mabus Dissociated But Not Disconnected
join:2002-11-12 Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to StarFish267 tis a great resource for searching actual discussion groups, but for those that leech off the binaries groups google is useless. -- MABUSLAND - a nice place on the web to call home!
STEREOLAB - THE GREATEST BAND ON EARTH |
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  cdru Go Colts Premium,MVM join:2003-05-14 Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to pende_tim said by pende_tim :can you recommend such a program? (free is best) GrabIt although refreshing large (read: groups will 1m posts) can be painfully slow during the indexing portion. NBZ-type files can eliminate the need for this.
As for the "capping"...hello people. Did you really think it was going to last? Sure it was (relatively) easy when everyone was at 768 or 1500 speeds. But now many people are at the 3000 speeds and the lucky few with FiOS are also leeching at 5 and 15mbits. No ISP in the world is going to provide a news server that can support a 15mbit connection to thousands of concurrent connections. An incoming newsfeed already is measured in the TB on a daily basis.
If you want to leech off of a usenet connection, you are going to have to find a Usenet provider such as easynews or giganews. -- "What gives them the right to come in and do this?" she said. - Lady complaining that she was getting FIOS in her backyard. |
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 al13 And Boom Goes The Dynamite
join:2003-06-15 Dunkirk, NY
| reply to Zzzz64 I'm a new verizon DSL customer as of today. Switching from Adelphia HSI and so far verizon is great. I have tried out the usenet service on verizon and its good. But what is the monthly download limit?
adelphia used to give out 5gigs free and outsourced it to giganews -- »www.wackbag.com |
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  janderso1 Jim Premium,MVM join:2000-04-15 Saint Petersburg, FL | Currently Verizon has no monthly download limits. Verizon runs its own news servers. -- Jim Anderson |
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 al13 And Boom Goes The Dynamite
join:2003-06-15 Dunkirk, NY
| said by janderso1 :Currently Verizon has no monthly download limits. Verizon runs its own news servers. Great, but i heard there is only a 15 day retention? -- »www.wackbag.com |
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