Finally admitting to blocking

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jbob Reach Out and Touch Someone Premium join:2004-04-26 Little Rock, AR ·Comcast ·AT&T Southwest	Finally admitting to blocking This afternoon we finally got some people on the Comcast Forums to admit that Comcast was indeed blocking all mail sent to Hotmail/MSN accounts. Comcast's own smtp servers are doing the blocking it would appear. They say they are doing this to keep the mail from building up in the mail queues until the issues with MSN/Hotmail are worked out. The big issue I have is they are blocking any message that even has one Hotmail/MSN recipient. So if you are sending a message to 10 of your friends and one is on Hotmail, the whole message is rejected. Surely there is a way to manage this better.
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uvacow join:2002-09-02 Charlottesville, VA	tell your friends to not use hotmail
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Krispy Premium,VIP join:2001-12-11 the stix	reply to jbob said by jbob : Surely there is a way to manage this better. Yes there is. I don't know their setup but it would seem reasonable to assume they could map all hotmail destined messages to one specific server so that the queued hotmail would only affect queued hotmail. -- you can lead a horse to the water but you cannot make him drink...you can put a man through school but you cannot make him think --ben harper
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funchords Hello Premium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Washington, DC ·Verizon Online DSL ·Skype	reply to jbob said by jbob : The big issue I have is they are blocking any message that even has one Hotmail/MSN recipient. So if you are sending a message to 10 of your friends and one is on Hotmail, the whole message is rejected. Surely there is a way to manage this better. Hey jbob, I was wrong about that. I did some further testing and found that the mail does indeed go to the non-rejected recipients. The "550 permit denied" after a RCPT command but before the DATA command only affects the rejected recipients. Otherwise, it affects them all. And I did test it to make sure I wasn't wrong twice in a row. That -never- happens! -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon USA ~ Keeper of the D-Link FAQ ~ Did you Search? ~ More features, Free! Join BBR! ~
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jbob Reach Out and Touch Someone Premium join:2004-04-26 Little Rock, AR ·Comcast ·AT&T Southwest 1 edit	Ok wait a minute then. This is what my OE log shows from todays attempt to send an email to several addy's with one being to a Hotmail addy: SMTP: 11:57:46 [rx] 220 comcast.net - Maillennium ESMTP/MULTIBOX rwcrmhc11 #411 SMTP: 11:57:46 [tx] HELO NO1XP SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 250 comcast dot net SMTP: 11:57:47 [tx] MAIL FROM: "my Comcast addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 250 ok SMTP: 11:57:47 [tx] RCPT TO: "Yahoo Addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 250 ok; [simple] forward to "Yahoo Addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [tx] RCPT TO: "Myrealbox addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 250 ok; [simple] forward to "Myrealbox addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [tx] RCPT TO: "bigfoot addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 250 ok; [simple] forward to "bigfoot addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [tx] RCPT TO: "hotmail addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 550 permit denied SMTP: 11:57:47 [tx] QUIT SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 221 Closing connection. Good bye. According to what you just said all the addy's before the hotmail one should have been delivered but they were not. The whole message was rejected in my test. It was only after I removed the hotmail addy would any of the recipients get a delivery. Dammit why are my email addy's removed? I have them munged!
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funchords Hello Premium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Washington, DC ·Verizon Online DSL ·Skype	said by jbob : Ok wait a minute then. This is what my OE log shows from todays attempt to send an email to several addy's with one being to a Hotmail addy: SMTP: 11:57:46 [rx] 220 comcast.net - Maillennium ESMTP/MULTIBOX rwcrmhc11 #411 SMTP: 11:57:46 [tx] HELO NO1XP SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 250 comcast dot net SMTP: 11:57:47 [tx] MAIL FROM: "my Comcast addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 250 ok SMTP: 11:57:47 [tx] RCPT TO: "Yahoo Addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 250 ok; [simple] forward to "Yahoo Addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [tx] RCPT TO: "Myrealbox addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 250 ok; [simple] forward to "Myrealbox addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [tx] RCPT TO: "bigfoot addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 250 ok; [simple] forward to "bigfoot addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [tx] RCPT TO: "hotmail addy" SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 550 permit denied SMTP: 11:57:47 [tx] QUIT SMTP: 11:57:47 [rx] 221 Closing connection. Good bye. According to what you just said all the addy's before the hotmail one should have been delivered but they were not. The whole message was rejected in my test. It was only after I removed the hotmail addy would any of the recipients get a delivery. Dammit why are my email addy's removed? I have them munged! I replied to you in the other thread. This surprised me, too. It's an Outlook Express thing, but I'm not sure I'd call it a bug. Since OE is an end-user's client and not an SMTP server itself, this might be acceptable. Outlook doesn't behave this way. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon USA ~ Keeper of the D-Link FAQ ~ Did you Search? ~ More features, Free! Join BBR! ~
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jbob Reach Out and Touch Someone Premium join:2004-04-26 Little Rock, AR	Yeah I read your reply over on Comcast. I am wondering if Thunderbird has this same behavior? I've been wanting to make the switch. I have Outlook but don't use it much.
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