baysoor
join:2002-03-12
San Jose, CA
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Re: Is there any ATA that can't be locked
/* Flame shield on */
As long as we are talking theories and harry potter, here is another wild idea. Roll your own.
1. Get one of those SFF computers with one or more open PCI slots.
2. Install asterisk on compact flash/USB stick etc.
»www.automated.it/asterisk/asterisk-cf.htm
3. Install some FXS and FXO port PCI cards.
You get your super duper SIPURA 3000 killer with other features like built in PBX/VOICE MAIL remote access to boot.
I know this is not real ATA but better than Harry Potter version and certainly feasible.
/* Flame shield still on, go for it .....  */ |
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timatg
join:2005-11-29
Pottsville, PA | reply to Non User
Yes it would, that is why I ask about it. Tim |
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Non User
@allwest.net
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PAP2-NA is another non-locked device....(not sure if you can prevent it from being locked)
It would suck to buy a non locked device, and then have your provider turn around and lock it.  |
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mazilo
From Mazilo
Premium
join:2002-05-30
Lilburn, GA
1 edit | reply to timatg
What about the ADSL Zoom X5v Integrated VoIP Modem - Model 55xy devices that are not locked? |
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IronHelix
join:2002-04-05
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If you want an ATA that is physically incapable of being locked, then you want prtowskis' harry potter gadget. Nobody that I know of makes such a device, mostly because not supporting locking in any manner makes it useless to most service providers, who make up 95% of the ATA market.
You can easily prevent a Sipura from being locked, just turn off provision enable.
However, in this configuration, the device will be useless with any provider that does not support BYOD so you are stuck right back where you started. Vonage won't even talk to you about an ATA that wasn't Vonage-branded and has its serial number (MAC address) in their database, many of the others will allow you to use the device, however instead of giving you the SIP login, they will add your device's MAC to their database and tell you to plug in their tftp server info.
Thus, you either turn on provisioning, and the device works, but is probably then locked (although in such a case they would unlock it for free when you cancel), (thus losing you the benefits of an unlocked ATA) or they won't deal with you.
You need a carrier that supports true BYOD, like will give you the SIP login settings. IE teliax, broadvoice, quantumvoice and i think ViaTalk.
If you use an adapter they support, they will generally allow you to configure it via TFTP as above, but they will give you the admin password to it so you can then turn off provisioning, and make any other changes you want.
Alternatively, they give you a list of settings like your SIP server, login username, sip password, and a few other misc. generic settings to make your device work correctly, and after that you're on your own to set the thing up.
Sadly, such carriers are not nearly as common as locked carriers.
Personally I strongly dislike the concept of locking, as it prevents you from using the service to its fullest capability and restricts your choices. But I understand why they do it. Hopefully in a year or two this market will start to move beyond locking devices... not hopeful though. |
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HidingOne
@65.201.x.x | reply to timatg
Sipura SPA3000 is the most versatile adapter, however it all depends on what you want from it.
Check out www.sipura.com and compare the features.
Hope it helps! |
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timatg
join:2005-11-29
Pottsville, PA | reply to HidingOne
Thanks that is what I needed to know, witch sipura adapter got the most settings, or are all them the same as far as settings ? Thanks! Tim |
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HidingOne
@65.201.x.x | reply to timatg
On Sipura adapters setting "Provision Enable" to "No" would do the trick. |
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
clubs: | reply to timatg
Ha..Yes it's called the Harry Potter Woggle Modem/Gateway/Super Sip Unlockable Wonder ATA! |
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rizzo2dial
Premium
join:2004-08-05 | reply to timatg
Good luck finding such a device. You'll have a better chance of finding a Unicorn.  |
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timatg
join:2005-11-29
Pottsville, PA
| Hello Everyone.....
Is there any ATA that can not be locked, if you use a place like vonage. Also is there anything like a super ATA, that will let you control it for anything you may want to set ?
What would really be great, is if they had a all in one with router, ATA and cable modem. That was not locked to a cable voip provider, I'm sure that would save alot of problems and work much better then different ones hooked up.
What I want is a ATA or gatway, that can not be locked and supports anything and everything. I want to start learning how to set them up, and be able to use them with any provider I want. And even try out free providers, as well as setting up sip and other stuff. Thanks! Tim |
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