hamburglar_
join:2002-04-29
Columbus, OH | Yet another reason SBC sucks
3-6Mb? Over Fiber? They really are in their own little world. |
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King P
Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul
Premium
join:2004-11-17
Inman, SC
 ·Windstream
 ·Charter Pipeline
| hahahaha! That's hilarious. They are going to deploy fiber only to give 3-6 Mb? Wow, I thought copper was capable of that, and more...and guess what else, it is already deployed!!!
Why is it that people lose common sense when they become the executive of a company? I hope that doesn't happen to me...
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mrweirdo
join:2004-09-12
Roseville, CA
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indeed :/
you can already get more then that from most cable providers on the download side at least. Not sure if they synchronous down/up or not. The only advantage to sbc would customers would be the extra upload which not everyone needs unless your uploading big picts, filesharing, etc. |
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insomniac
Oh Yeah
Premium
join:2002-09-22
Naperville, IL
clubs:
·AT&T Midwest
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said by hamburglar_  :They really are in their own little world. Yeah, really. If this is what new construction is getting, I'm not sure it's even worth my time to see what they'll give the rest of us.
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Jigsaw
Stardust We Are
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join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH
·Cox HSI
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said by hamburglar_ :3-6Mb? Over Fiber? They really are in their own little world. Well as the time passes them by they will be in there own world.They would rather spend millions to lobby than a cent to upgrade.Don't worry its going to bite them in the ass hard soon.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
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said by hamburglar_ :3-6Mb? Over Fiber? They really are in their own little world. Thats better than the 1.5mbps that Qwest is giving over its fibre. *yawn* why even bother when cable can STILL beat that.
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | reply to Jigsaw
They will not offer the higher speeds right now because they are laying the ground work for future rate increases, they will ramp up the speed along with the monthly cost. |
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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said by King P :hahahaha! That's hilarious. They are going to deploy fiber only to give 3-6 Mb? Wow, I thought copper was capable of that, and more...and guess what else, it is already deployed!!! Fiber is capable of delivering 100 Mbps to every house without much problem. I think the biggest concern that providers have at this moment is the bandwidth they have available to the Internet. Sure, they probabably have 10, 20 or more Gbps connection to the Internet, but as soon as you deliver 100 Mbps to customers, not to soon afterwards there WILL be people affiliated with some warez-crew that has a release server on his line and generates a few terabytes of traffic each month. 
That being said, I think deploying fiber with anything less then 10 Mbps is stupid. If you are going to deploy the technology, give users something MORE then your average DSL or Cable speeds.
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op
join:2005-07-16
Smyrna, DE | reply to hamburglar_
WOWzers 3-6mbps max over fiber is so fast I dont know what to do with this Very Fast Speed!!! We here on the east coast will be getting 7.1mbps on copper DSL lines! Even Cable companies offer faster speeds than SBC(AT&T)on cable. |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
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I am getting rather fed up with SBC (ATT). Now the local cable company has a 10mb/s tier for the same price as SBC's 6mb/s tier! Rediculous! How about some actual competition?
I have to wait almost another year to switch over though, since I just had to renew for another year with SBC.
My SBC/ATT ratings are dropping fast.
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lovswr
join:2001-09-15
Stockbridge, GA | reply to maartena
No that is incorrect, Backbone capacity is more than enough. What they are trying to do is recoup the money for all that dark fiber that's in the ground now.
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ctceo
Premium
join:2001-04-26
South Bend, IN
clubs: | reply to King P
You're right, Copper is capable of 9/1 (in optimal conditions) per line installed to the home (usually up to 8).
Theoretically you could have 18/2 (mbps d/u) in a typical 2 phone line home, aggregated. WAY more then sufficient for TVoIP. |
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cmaenginsb
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA
| reply to maartena
With SBC you might be suprised at their internet connection. While this will change since the merger, since SBC didn't have any long distance lines most of their regions had individual internet connections to a Tier-1 like Sprint. The actual bandwidth wasn't a huge amount as it didn't have to be agregated.
Some cable companies are worse. For example in some markets Adelphia runs the community off of 2 T-1s.
Fiber deployments are more than just about providing fast internet speeds, which sitting on a 45Mbps pipe I can tell isn't that much faster than what you have now. They also eventually will allow for deployment of TV and other services and allow for a much greater revenue basis per customer.
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to jimbo2150
said by jimbo2150 :I am getting rather fed up with SBC (ATT). Now the local cable company has a 10mb/s tier for the same price as SBC's 6mb/s tier! Rediculous! How about some actual competition? I have to wait almost another year to switch over though, since I just had to renew for another year with SBC. My SBC/ATT ratings are dropping fast. Thats why I am not going to go with their DSL plans.
1) I am at 12k ft of the CO. The best speeds I am EVER going to get at that distance is about 8 Mbps down, 1 Mbps up. Even ADSL2+ or VDSL2+ or whatever it is these days isn't going to give me any good speeds at 12k ft. You have to be under 10k ft for any of the good stuff. And they aren't going to be dropping fiber in my back yard any time soon.... DSL is still based on your analog phone line, and therefore copper all the way from your local CO to your house.
2) DOCSIS 2.0 (the current cable standard) and even DOCSIS 1.1 is already capable of delivering 10 down, 1 up to every home, regardless of the distance. Optimum Online has done it for years now (10/1), and even the cable TRIALS back in 1996/97 before the technology broke through was already 10 Mbps down. And given the fact there are cable companies that offer 15/2 to compete with FIOS, and some companies are introducing DOCSIS 2 based connections of 30 or even 50 Mbps.... And given the fact that 90% of today's Cable networks are already "fiber to the street" or "fiber to the block", I know that cable can deliver.
In short: TV-Cable and Fiber have the future. DSL only has future if it involves fiber between the CO and somewhere really close to your house.
I only get 5 Mbps down and 384 up with TWC at the moment, and the only thing faster then that is paying $10 more for a 6 Mbps down, 608 up connection. Which my neighbor has, and he has to reset his modem every few days because of the 12k distance. No thanks.
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George W. Bush on Clinton going into Kosovo, 1999: “I think it’s also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”
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Eric Martin
join:2005-06-19
66308
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Funny as hell some you are waiting for SBC !
SBC and Verizon run their companies like any companies that aren't interested in common good. Remember them no wanting to wire up the distant communities with phone service . Costs them money.
It's all about targetting the rich. Redlining.
There needs to be a real 3rd alternative.
NATIONAL low priced Fiber ! All it takes is some donation money and volunteers ! |
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