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1 edit |  "Random..."
Sounds like "random" BS.
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"Daryl Branson, director of the SJCCA, said the county was without 9-1-1 service for almost 90 minutes. After that time, "basic" service was available for land lines. Cell phone service, however, was not available. Full service was back in place by 11:15 p.m., Branson said.
Due to the nature of the problem, Branson said dispatchers were sent to "remote offices" in Kirtland, Farmington and Bloomfield to receive the emergency calls that were rerouted through local telephone numbers.
"We have a lot of systems in place that usually make it unnecessary to go to other locations," said Branson. "But because of the type of problem, back up (like the airport dispatch center) would not have helped. So we had to send dispatchers to Kirtland and Bloomfield.
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Diana Culler, 50, said she noticed a problem when her home phone didn't work while and her sister-in-law Ginger, 44, said her cell phone was not operational."
Sounds like a bigger problem than "Random Gunfire". |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by exocet_cm  :Sounds like "random" BS. The news item never did say how they determined it was a gunfire downed telephone line. And how did they know it was random and not some kid trying to cut the line on purpose.
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vpoko
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by exocet_cm :Sounds like "random" BS. The news item never did say how they determined it was a gunfire downed telephone line. And how did they know it was random and not some kid trying to cut the line on purpose. Hey, unless the DSL/phone line was shooting back I'd still call that pretty random. |
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pnh102
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said by exocet_cm :... the county was without 9-1-1 service for almost 90 minutes... You would think there would be backup services in place that would automatically re-route 911 calls and not leave any gap in service. Glad to see our 911 fees are going for nothing.
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vpoko
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| said by pnh102 :said by exocet_cm :... the county was without 9-1-1 service for almost 90 minutes... You would think there would be backup services in place that would automatically re-route 911 calls and not leave any gap in service. Glad to see our 911 fees are going for nothing. They'll probably get fined for this. Aren't phone companies required to maintain 99.999% availability, no excuses even for things like random gunfire? |
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Smokey
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Oh, its just not so with Qworst. Up until spring of this year, my department back in AZ had this problem anytime there was a cable cut. We only had one route in and out of town for all our phone traffic, and all 911 calls had to be routed out of town, switched in Tucson, and routed back to us. It was a real pain.
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pnh102
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| said by Smokey :all 911 calls had to be routed out of town, switched in Tucson, and routed back to us. It was a real pain. But was there any interruption in 911 service? Even with the calls being routed to another city someone is still on the other end of the line who can get help to where its needed. In this situation, 911 was down entirely for 90 minutes. Having it immediately re-routed to another city is a reasonable temporary measure until primary 911 is restored.
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1 edit | That is how our 911 system worked. All 911 calls go from our CO, on to a fiber run to Tucson, switched to a new fiber run and back to the correct dispatch office in our county. When ever there was a fiber cut in either of the two lines, we would lose 911, and the city and county would lose long distance. We had a few outages that were around an hour, and one that was just under two hours because they couldn't find the line fault. The Arizona Cooperation Commission starting hitting Qworst with big fines because of this, and this summer they completed a fiber ring for the whole county.
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pnh102
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| said by Smokey :When ever there was a fiber cut in either of the two lines, we would lose 911, and the city and county would lose long distance. That is really scary. Given how important 911 is, and how much we are paying for it in fees, you would thing it would literally bulletproof (pun intended) now.
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Smokey
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clubs: | Our system out there is just such a mess mate... As far as I know, we haven't had anymore outages, but we still get 911 calls from "phantom phones" when it rains.
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said by TKJunkMail :The news item never did say how they determined it was a gunfire downed telephone line. And how did they know it was random and not some kid trying to cut the line on purpose. This happens all the time in rural areas. The insulators on telephone poles that run through the woods are popular practice targets of hunters.
And given the fact that we are in the fall, now is hunting time.
I think you guys are looking way to deep into a simple case of "shit happens".
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| said by Wills :This happens all the time in rural areas. The insulators on telephone poles that run through the woods are popular practice targets of hunters. If they ever catch the people who are responsible then the telegraph company should make them pay for all of the costs incurred for performing the repair. The individuals should also be held criminally responsible for negligent usage of firearms and if someone who needed to call 911 could not. Given how much lineman overtime can be, this will quickly discourage other people from doing the same thing.
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vpoko
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| said by pnh102 :said by Wills :This happens all the time in rural areas. The insulators on telephone poles that run through the woods are popular practice targets of hunters. If they ever catch the people who are responsible then the telegraph company should make them pay for all of the costs incurred for performing the repair. The individuals should also be held criminally responsible for negligent usage of firearms and if someone who needed to call 911 could not. Given how much lineman overtime can be, this will quickly discourage other people from doing the same thing. I'm sure they'd throw the book at someone for this (at least I hope they do). Unlawfully discharging a firearm into communications lines that carry emergency service? If somebody died as a result of not being able to reach 911, the individual could be prosecuted for manslaghter arising from negligence.
Catching someone in a rural area shooting at remote phone lines, however, is a much harder matter. |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to exocet_cm
sad thing is if the guy missed hit a powerline and got fried. his family would sue the utility for not inventing bulletproof insulators.
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Ha Ha. I've heard of backhoe fade, now we have bullet fade.  |
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Cheese
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First, why would anyone WANT to shoot a telephone line, second, they must be ONE HELL of a shot to hit the line and damage it. |
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vpoko
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| said by Cheese :First, why would anyone WANT to shoot a telephone line, second, they must be ONE HELL of a shot to hit the line and damage it. I didn't read the article so I don't know what kind of firearm it may have been, but hitting a powerline would not be all that hard with a shotgun's spread. |
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Rel5
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Colorado Springs, CO | reply to Cheese
First, because the're an ass. Second, not really, anyone with a decent rifle with a decent scope properly sighted in could hit it no problem. I've got a ruger 10/22 with a heavy barrel I could shoot lines down all day with without hardly trying. |
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Cheese
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said by vpoko :said by Cheese :First, why would anyone WANT to shoot a telephone line, second, they must be ONE HELL of a shot to hit the line and damage it. I didn't read the article so I don't know what kind of firearm it may have been, but hitting a powerline would not be all that hard with a shotgun's spread. If you are standing right under it maybe. |
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vpoko
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| said by Cheese :If you are standing right under it maybe. It actually works the opposite with a shotgun. Since you don't fire a single bullet but instead fire a number of lead pellets ("shot"), the pellets spread out more the further the target. The shorter the barrel of the shotgun, the faster the shot spreads. |
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