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Happyrat
Google Is Your Best Friend
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| Re: Simplify it for me please... Your best bet will be to try the Live CDs and DVDs out there and see which size fits you best.
Asking this question in this forum will simply bring up a lot of regulars touting their own favorite flavors.
"*cough* SuSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *cough*" 
Anyway, don't really expect too much constructive advice from this thread. You can get the same answers from reading a thousand similar posts in this forum 
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wiles
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| I started with an installation of Arch Linux. This is what I use to this day. It has a very nice package management system, pacman, and it is relatively easy to set up if you know what you are doing in a sense. By this I mean, you'll learn a decent amount about how the system works and its config files. It's optimized for faster processors so you might see a bit better performance. Read their installation guide, it's only a few steps and after partions are set up, you'll be up in running in 30 mins. | |
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| said by Mercurybird  : I'm coming to Linux out of a love for Linux, not a dislike, or hatred, of Windows. I love Windows XP Home. It's stable as a rock for me. Does everything I want and need it to. No hiccups. I am NOT trying to troll. I may have to run WinXP-Home (for job) and I would like to know what you use to keep out the spyware and adware and virus ware? I've been running Linux for the past four years and I have no knowledge on how to secure Windows XP because it has never been an issue with Linux beyond the router firewall and the client firewall that comes with my distro (Kanotix).
Thanks for any information on what I should buy, install, etc.
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| Re: Simplify it for me please... said by Al1776 :I would like to know what you use to keep out the spyware and adware and virus ware? I find "a brain" works quite well.
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1 edit | Re: Simplify it for me please... said by dave :You might be better off asking this question over in the Security forum, though. I agree, but I was hoping the OP would tell me what HE uses as I want to hear from actual users who are not XP haters.
I wonder how Access 2000 would run under Crossover Office. Maybe I won't have to run Windows? Then again there is the 'right tool for the job' thing... and I have a dual boot box.. but have not booted to XP for 2 years... and never while connected to the router.
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| Re: Simplify it for me please... said by Al1776 :said by dave :You might be better off asking this question over in the Security forum, though. I agree, but I was hoping the OP would tell me what HE uses as I want to hear from actual users who are not XP haters. I wonder how Access 2000 would run under Crossover Office. Maybe I won't have to run Windows? Then again there is the 'right tool for the job' thing... and I have a dual boot box.. but have not booted to XP for 2 years... and never while connected to the router. Al I use xp too....and to answer your question and to mimic dave.....a brain.
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wiles
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| said by Al1776 :said by dave :You might be better off asking this question over in the Security forum, though. I agree, but I was hoping the OP would tell me what HE uses as I want to hear from actual users who are not XP haters. I wonder how Access 2000 would run under Crossover Office. Maybe I won't have to run Windows? Then again there is the 'right tool for the job' thing... and I have a dual boot box.. but have not booted to XP for 2 years... and never while connected to the router. Al I actually just gave Office XP a shot with crossover office and it runs great. There are some issues, like getting excel charts into word documents and having them appear correctly. I don't really use Access but I did try running it and it seemed to work without a hitch.
Heh, I think installing windows programs with crossover office is easier then installing them natively in windows. You don't have to reboot and the whole thing is so automated. It works great. | |
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B-3000 | Re: Simplify it for me please... if you're getting appearence issues, then why not using openoffice (or staroffice)...?
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| Re: Simplify it for me please... said by alien9999999 :if you're getting appearence issues, then why not using openoffice (or staroffice)...? Well openoffice 2.0 crashes randomly, left on its own. I won't even be doing anything and it just closes. Staroffice, well, that would cost some money on my part and I'm not guaranteed it might be free of the same issue OO has. So running Microsoft office allows me to at least be able to perform most of the functions I need to do on a regular basis, and when necessary to put together an intense word document with embedded charts and such I'll boot into windows. | |
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Mercurybird
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| said by Al1776 :said by Mercurybird : I'm coming to Linux out of a love for Linux, not a dislike, or hatred, of Windows. I love Windows XP Home. It's stable as a rock for me. Does everything I want and need it to. No hiccups. I am NOT trying to troll. I may have to run WinXP-Home (for job) and I would like to know what you use to keep out the spyware and adware and virus ware? I've been running Linux for the past four years and I have no knowledge on how to secure Windows XP because it has never been an issue with Linux beyond the router firewall and the client firewall that comes with my distro (Kanotix). Thanks for any information on what I should buy, install, etc. Al Take this request to the Security Forum and look at their tab for Security updates. Notice that the updates are seperated into categories. Go to the webpage of each one and read their blurb. You'll be very knowledgable before too long. Also, in the Security Forum, look at the left panel. Look for the polls of each type of security software. Look at each of the poll's results. You'll see what's best by what's most popular. I wish you well. But most of all, remember, security is mostly common sense and discretion. 
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wiles
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| You know, the problem with Windows is more of the user's fault. I have Windows XP Pro on some machines, even as a dual boot with my linux. I run absolutely no protection on it for virus or spyware, aside from doing the regular security updates and a router firewall. I've never had one issue with spyware. It is a question of what sites you visit in order to compromise your machine. I find also just setting certain options in the web browser pretty much prompts you if you want to install a piece of spyware.
I'm still kinda interested in how they ran a test by just installing a copy of windows and connecting it to the internet on how it got infected and compromised. | |
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| Re: Simplify it for me please... Well you're probably running a NAT router, which protects you better than the earlier models. I run a NAT router, but because I added a Smoothwall box after that, I've bypassed the WAN port on the router and using it as a hub, of sorts. So I'm not sure if the NAT features, or any other features for that matter, are still in effect. Likely not since I can't connect to the router's web GUI. But Smoothwall takes care of all of that for me.
One thing though, you make an excellent point on the more advanced settings of your browser. I've never set my settings up to the higher levels. Just the more basic advanced levels to allow just session cookies, etc.. I'm going to go ahead and do that now that you've reminded me of it.
I don't know what test your referring to, but I can imagine. It creates a mental picture of someone sticking a lamb on the edge of the forrest and leaving it there to see if anything bad is in the forest. No wait a minute... that would be a test to see if a lamb really is defenseless.
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wiles
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USA | Re: Simplify it for me please... I remember reading somewhere that an unupdated version of Windows XP freshly installed and connected to the internet ended up compromised in like 40 minutes or something like that. | |
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| If you want to use both smoothie GUI and your router, just replug into your wan port and change your routers ip to that of your SW; ie mine is 192.168.0.1 and my router is 192.168.0.2. After you change your router setting switch back to your lan port instead of the wan port. This will allow you to connect to you SW box and your router gui. Enjoy.
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| Re: Simplify it for me please... said by I2usesmoothie :
If you want to use both smoothie GUI and your router, just replug into your wan port and change your routers ip to that of your SW; ie mine is 192.168.0.1 and my router is 192.168.0.2. After you change your router setting switch back to your lan port instead of the wan port. This will allow you to connect to you SW box and your router gui. Enjoy.
Oh buy the way, I run SUSE 10 and love it.
I haven't tried this yet but I'm sure going to. Thanks so much for posting it.
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alien9999999
Your Head Looks Nice
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| Re: Simplify it for me please... said by Mercurybird :That was sadly contrasted with Mandriva (sp?) which would give you a free version, but apparently they blazen a big FREE accross the front of it. lol, that's just the wallpaper ...
btw: at my previous work, I have had a windows PC fully viralled in under 12 seconds, since I was just installing it, and wanting to install SP2 to get the firewall installed. Anyway, i donno much about windows security, but it was just installed and already done for...
PS: linux distributions need to survive too, so they sell versions with support... hence the free versions, (if you dislike the free, just buy it ).
PPS: I prefer mandriva, cause of the easy install and the very good Mandrake Control Center...
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alien9999999
Your Head Looks Nice
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| Re: Simplify it for me please... there is that,
but also, don't switch distro's like you switch food...
be patient with your food and try it a few times...
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computx
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Kirksville, MO | Re: Simplify it for me please... Since his name and avatar is Alien he is probably hanging out somewhere with Sigourney Weaver.
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alien9999999
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B-3000 | Re: Simplify it for me please... :-(
She is quite a bit older than me, but she was very cool in Alien Resurrection.
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alien9999999
Your Head Looks Nice
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| I AM on the map!
B8511 is the international notation of a zip code.
Speaking of which, i need to change it, I've moved about a year and a half ago...
it's now B3000 or B-3000, but it doesn't accept it, i think...
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yock
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wiles
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| Re: Simplify it for me please... said by yock :abiword and gnumeric are great. I was thinking of giving those "gnome office" things a shot. | |
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I want a version that will do all the things (within reason) that Windows will do. Especially the web and email. But a version with some security built into it.
They probably didn't have that cheesy firewall configured either. I bet a blind buzzard at 40,000' coulda seen that PC on the net. 