tapeloop
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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP
said by dvd536  :Thats a fine attitude until we help make them smart and then OUR jobs go over there to people that can do them as well as us but get paid like $3.50 a day. Hate to break it you kid, but that's been happening for quite some time now. Guess we should make ourselves smart...?
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said by tapeloop :Funny that you can say the same thing about a lot of first world Mormons and Catholics too.  In a survey conducted by US Catholic, 81 percent of Catholics believe a married couple has the right to follow their own conscience on the decision to use birth control.
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tapeloop
1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss.
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said by Asmodeus :most 3rd worlders don't even use condoms much less know what a condom is... Funny that you can say the same thing about a lot of first world Mormons and Catholics too.
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thirdworlder
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Most of the 3rd World population that can read and write can afford $300 for a low end PC. Why I think they can afford $300 computer is because most of your backend work is being outsourced to these people and they already own $400 Mobile phones on GSM networks.
The population that is illiterate cannot even read or write, leave alone work on computers.
So, $100 computer will not have any genuine buyers except some currupt 3rd world gov or NGOs who would be interested in large scale scams. |
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jap
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said by LinuxJunkie :That's what you're implying I am?
I defy you to explain the implication you accuse me of. It's simply not there. |
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace | reply to jap
And they know everything about us? That's what you're implying and that's also ignorant. |
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DataRiker
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Metairie, LA
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haha, good post Combat Chunk. Sad to see people hate America so much as to ignore the facts. The largest private donations to Asia and Africa go largely unnoticed, yet year after year Americans still give. Regardless how you feel about the American government, its wrong to distort the facts about private American charitable donations, many of which go undocumented. |
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The Next Step
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But they don't have Internet connectivity. Oh, wait, that'll be the next U.N. project: provide access to the Internet to all citizens of the third world. The U.N. does a piss-poor job of fixing third world problems partly because it's dominated by the "leaders" of those countries who are largely responsible for the problems in the first place.
Until we get past the jealousy and finger-pointing about whose blame third-world poverty is and get people to start accepting responsibility for their own problems, it'll never change. In the meantime, let's keep handing out free notebook computers to people who don't have the energy to turn the crank because they don't have enough to eat. That may not really improve their situation, but it'll make some people in the western countries feel less guilty about being better off. |
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Speedy8
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said by reub2000 :said by novaflare :said by dave :This would be the same Intel that has convinced most people that they need (Intel) CPUs in the 2-to-3 GHz range for adequate web access, right? Lol dave and so true. Look at the specs on compaq computers 3 ghz cpu 256 megs ram and no vid card listed. No vid listed because it uses on board vid totaling as high as 32 megs some times. Essentialy you got hugely fast and powerful cpus (arguably) but can never hope to make use of it all. Dell gateway and other big names are no better. Many are useing sub 60 gig hds still. I can legaly fill a 60 gig hd up in a few days. Computer market for off the shelf computers these days is over priced under powered (do to mis matched specs) door stops..... It's not just gamers who need power. A high end CPU is not hindered in non-graphic intensive applications by an intergrated video card. Stuff like compiling applicatons and transcoding video are perfect examples. I think the main problem is the low amount of ram. I mean seriously, an average user with an older 1.8ghz P4 with a gig of ram will probably have a lot better experience than one with a 3ghz p4 and only 256MB of ram. |
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reub2000
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said by novaflare :said by dave :This would be the same Intel that has convinced most people that they need (Intel) CPUs in the 2-to-3 GHz range for adequate web access, right? Lol dave and so true. Look at the specs on compaq computers 3 ghz cpu 256 megs ram and no vid card listed. No vid listed because it uses on board vid totaling as high as 32 megs some times. Essentialy you got hugely fast and powerful cpus (arguably) but can never hope to make use of it all. Dell gateway and other big names are no better. Many are useing sub 60 gig hds still. I can legaly fill a 60 gig hd up in a few days. Computer market for off the shelf computers these days is over priced under powered (do to mis matched specs) door stops..... It's not just gamers who need power. A high end CPU is not hindered in non-graphic intensive applications by an intergrated video card. Stuff like compiling applicatons and transcoding video are perfect examples. |
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jap
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said by Asmodeus :most 3rd worlders don't even use condoms much less know what a condom is.. Ignorant statement that.
A safer statement would be "most first worlders don't know the first fucking thing about the lives of most third-worlders".
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cdigioia
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Well using a subjective word like uncivilized, being snide, and making sweeping statements about Americans I don't think will particularly educate anyone.
I think it depends on which developing nation one is talking about. The nations mentioned as the 1st to receive this are quite well setup already, which is probably why they are the first, as they are the easiest in which to implement the idea.
But the nations that need assistance the most, (think much of Africa) often have very high HIV infection rates and very low levels of capital investment, including such basic things as paved roadways. As such, the nations that need assistance the most, are going to be the ones that can make the least use of such a laptop.
I would imagine it would be much more beneficial for many nations, African especially, to have for instance, US farm subsidies done away first, so that the farmers can better compete and better provide for a basic economy.
We're not talking about there being a problem shipping laptops to Mexico or Argentina. I think the point is that there won't be the infrastructure to support these laptops in the nations which need help the most. |
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MsGeek
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join:2001-06-06
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said by LOsErLuKiN :Hand-cranked? I'm scared. Nothing to be afraid of. Hell, I want one of these. I want a power supply mod that will give me this capability with my existing lappies.
Imagine if you are running low on battery power and you are in a public park...with WiFi...and there's no place to plug in? Get the crank out. Apply elbow grease for 10 minutes, and you're back surfing the web.
As they say in Japan...sugoi, neh?
Negroponte is talking about selling these puppies in the First World for $200 or thereabouts to make the project self-supporting. It might not be the latest and greatest ThinkPad or aluminum Powerbook but it wouldn't be a half bad PDA replacement.
And yes! It runs Linux! w00t.
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dave
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said by jebba2005 :how will it work in 110 degree heat? No problem there, only the US has 110 degree heat.
(The rest of the world calls it 43, but the US is kinda backwards on measuring things). |
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novaflare
The Dragon Was Here
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said by dave :This would be the same Intel that has convinced most people that they need (Intel) CPUs in the 2-to-3 GHz range for adequate web access, right? Lol dave and so true. Look at the specs on compaq computers 3 ghz cpu 256 megs ram and no vid card listed. No vid listed because it uses on board vid totaling as high as 32 megs some times. Essentialy you got hugely fast and powerful cpus (arguably) but can never hope to make use of it all. Dell gateway and other big names are no better. Many are useing sub 60 gig hds still. I can legaly fill a 60 gig hd up in a few days. Computer market for off the shelf computers these days is over priced under powered (do to mis matched specs) door stops.....
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Eat Me
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Sussex, NJ | reply to cdigioia
You've obviously never lived in a 3rd world country.
I'll forgive you. Most Americans figure anywhere outside of the USA, Europe and parts of Asia are uncivilized. |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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oops...sorry professor, perhaps you should read the sources before you cite them. It took me less than a minute to find:
»www.globalissues.org/TradeRelate···ibutions
pay particular attention to
quote:
While Adelman admits that “there are no complete figures for international private giving” she still says that Americans are “clearly the most generous on earth in public — but especially in private — giving”. Hence these numbers and claims may be taken with caution, but even then, these are high numbers.
emphasis mine.
The only chart I can find that supports what you said is one based on estimating private contributions and then "penalizing" them for various subjective things. And if you are using subjective qualifiers in your study you can basically make the numbers come out however you want them to.
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said by Fatal Vector :Not to mention that, if the area has no electricity, where the hell are they going to get net access? That can be controlled by the government. Install a satellite station...that needs electricity, maintenance and, can be controlled by the government? And, the thing looks...wellll creepy. All puke green and all. Looks like a childs toy. Jeez what a waste of money. But then, they are just trying to get away from the food for oil scandal. It all SOUNDS good and all, but implimenting it is where the failure will come. You guys are really pathtetic, seriously. What's up, are you scared of another 400M+ kid willb e smarter than you maybe?  |
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John Galt
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said by Fatal Vector :Not to mention that, if the area has no electricity, where the hell are they going to get net access? That can be controlled by the government. Install a satellite station...that needs electricity, maintenance and, can be controlled by the government? It is all being done at this very instant.
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Not to mention that, if the area has no electricity, where the hell are they going to get net access? That can be controlled by the government. Install a satellite station...that needs electricity, maintenance and, can be controlled by the government?
And, the thing looks...wellll creepy. All puke green and all. Looks like a childs toy. Jeez what a waste of money. But then, they are just trying to get away from the food for oil scandal. It all SOUNDS good and all, but implimenting it is where the failure will come. |
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