NormanS Premium,MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| Re: Yahoo upgrade for existing DSL customers said by tough luck :THE ISP FROM HELL Warning, Warning, Warning; If you have Verizon as your ISP do not install the Verizon/Yahoo Internet Program. Once it is installed it is impossible to get rid of. If you dont like it you are screwed!!! The following is a transcript of three hours of hell trying to get tech support to help me get rid of it. I can no longer use Outlook as my E-Mail program, and now my home page has been taken over also. The only way to get rid of this is to switch Internet providers and do a fresh install of Windows XP!!! I HATE THIS PROGRAM!!!! I don't know how the Verizon Yahoo! package works; my only experience is with my SBC Yahoo! DSL Service.
There is no need to install any of the SBC Yahoo! co-branded software, nor did I do so.
There is no requirement to use the SBC Yahoo! portal page, nor do I do so.
There is no need to merge a Yahoo! Mail account with an SBC Yahoo! account; I did not do this with the primary SBC account, I did with most of the SBC sub accounts. Severing the Yahoo! Mail account wasn't completely successful, but it does work, now, as a free Yahoo! Mail account. It just appears to still be linked to SBC, such that I can't recreate the SBC sub account user name. I have not pursued the matter becuase it is not that important to me to be able to recreate that user name.
My OS is not screwed, because I did not install anything to screw it up. By all accounts of SBC customers who did install the co-branded software, then decided to remove it later, uninstall is easily accomplished from the "Add/Remove Programs" part of the Control Panel.
I see no reason why you can't use MS Outlook as your mail program. Your Verizon Yahoo! mail servers are POP3 and SMTP servers. I have no trouble using any regular email client, MS Outlook Express, Mozilla Thunderbird, or Pegasus Mail, with my SBC Yahoo! servers: pop.pacbell.yahoo.com, and smtp.pacbell.yahoo.com. I expect that outgoing.yahoo.verizon.net and incoming.yahoo.verizon.net should work in a similar fashion.
Your home page should still be configurable; unless you installed the co-branded browser, and it won't allow you to configure your home page. My SBC Yahoo! portal page, should I choose to use it, looks like the screen shot. The log in is here:
»login.yahoo.com/config/login?.pa···hoo.com/)
However, I prefer not to have a home portal page, so my browser homepage is here:
file:///F:/Profiles/Norman/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/V-W-X-Y-Z/Yamaneko/Kabegami%20Koubou/Mana-musume%20Ito/maya23d_800.png
The image used to be available from this index:
»www.fics.ne.jp/~yamaneko/japanes···ex.shtml
But the web site owner seems to have removed the wallpaper images; probably was taking a hit in upload bandwidth. He no longer has the wallpaper image that is my home page for my Mozilla browser, but my Firefox home page is set to the wallpaper of this image:
»www.fics.ne.jp/~yamaneko/japanes···013.html
From the sound of things, if you would wait 90 days, you would be able to switch away from the Verizon Yahoo! deal. Maybe somebody who has already done so can explain whether they lost their @verizon.net email address, or not. I can't imagine that severing the Verizon Yahoo! connection should lead to losing the @verizon.net identity, though.
But the idea that your system was screwed does not fit with what I know about the co-branded SBC Yahoo! software. I doubt that Verizon is stupider than SBC about this; but, I could be wrong. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |