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colorbars
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Re: Qwest High Speed Subscriber Service Agreement
I couldn't find the text for servers that was quoted, but add me to those who will tell Qwest to stick it where the sun don't shine if they come after me about it. Hint people, everything from web browsers to instant messaging clients to P2P programs are servers. A server is anything that accepts an inbound connection. P.S. I run a personal mail server on my line and I'm NOT giving that up. I'll take the responsibility for making sure it can't spam, thank you. (And no, it's impossible.)
The one thing that got me about the new agreement is that you specifically give up all rights you have under state law and agree to arbitration. I'm not a lawyer, but there's been a LOT of controversy over whether that's even legal. I doubt anything will be an issue, but you can be assured that if push comes to shove and they ever try anything, I WILL be making a stink. Qwest needs the goodwill of the state overseers. They can't screw things up too badly. | |
christcorp
Premium
join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
 ·VOIPo
 ·Bresnan Online
| Unfortunately, DSL and the internet don't always fall under the same rules as telephone. Also, many lawmakers see dsl and the internet as a service and commodity. (WHICH IT SHOULD BE). If a company want to put limits on the services they provide, they have every right to. We also have every right not to use them for that service. We don't need regulators involved. That's already half the problem, the government.
I had a few servers running for quite a while locally. One reason I went to Qwest DSL was because the cable company wouldn't allow servers. The wireless ISP's in our area also don't allow servers, and now it looks like Qwest is stopping it. With a trend like this, the only problem really is that you may find it difficult to find someone who will allow servers on their system.
A year ago, I stopped my web, email, and ftp servers from being on Qwest and moved them to a commerical hosting company. //mister.net . Not that I'm promoting them, I get nothing out of it, but I get my DOMAIN NAME registered through them, Static IP, 500mb of storage space (You can get as much as you want), unlimitted email server accounts with your domain or any sub domains, and 5gb transfer rate (You can get more). I get this all for $35 a YEAR. YES A YEAR. I am bringing this up because that is less than $3 a month. My STATIC IP with Qwest cost more than that!!! Plus I saved $3 a month going from Qwest with MSN to Qwest.net, so for the same price I also got good email, web, and ftp servers running on OC48 and OC96 fiber circuits.
There are definately times when people would like local servers like game servers and such. I hope this can still be possible. Even if Qwest keeps it available on their business type dsl accounts that would be something. The point is I don't like Qwest for doing this, but everyone else is doing too. Doesn't make it right, but it is their business. They have the right to limit it anyway they feel. And at least up in my part of the world, giving up qwest out of principle wouldn't help me because there is NO OTHER PROVIDER locally that would allow servers.
One final thought!!!! How DOES this really apply to Qwest.NET customers as opposed to Qwest with MSN. The reason I ask is because as a Qwest.net customer, they offer me space and ASSISTANCE on running a web site. Static IP addresses, etc... Just wondering if the terms of agreement is different for the Qwest/MSN.COM customers and the Qwest.net customers. Later.... Mike.... | |
AthlGrond
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join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
·Comcast
| said by christcorp  :One final thought!!!! How DOES this really apply to Qwest.NET customers as opposed to Qwest with MSN. The reason I ask is because as a Qwest.net customer, they offer me space and ASSISTANCE on running a web site. Static IP addresses, etc... Just wondering if the terms of agreement is different for the Qwest/MSN.COM customers and the Qwest.net customers. Later.... Mike.... It looks to me like it applies to everyone regardless of who your ISP is.
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AthlGrond
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join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
·Comcast
| reply to colorbars
said by colorbars :I couldn't find the text for servers that was quoted It's in 7 a iii, which, as you probably guessed, is quite wordy.
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