alexpb1
join:2005-06-23
Barrie, ON
| Usenetserver giving "special offer" to us....
I apologize if this has been posted, but i noticed this today and thought i'd let you guys know.
I personally don't use this company, as i already have a different one i'm content with, but i thought many of you would be interested.
Also, anyone who has used this news provider, could you give any insight on how the service is?
Thanks,
Alex |
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KyeU
join:2003-12-31
Canada | Very smart Marketing move; I haven't seen other Newsgroup Providers offer a special deal to the abandoned Usenet Rogers Customers. |
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salan
join:2004-10-04
Canada | giganews has.. but its not that great. 50% of the first month while usenetsever is doing 50% off 2 months. |
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Roop
join:2003-11-15
Ottawa, ON
 ·Internet Telephone..
| reply to alexpb1
i still recommend newshosting.com
unlimited for $15 USD ($18CAD) a month.
they keep getting better. i've had them for about a year now. every month or so they increase retention. speed is always great and maxes out my 6mbits unless they are having problems. i've never had them completly down but when they are having issues, speeds drop to around 200kbytes/sec. |
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superchap
@cable.rogers |  if i subscribe to newshosting.com, are those uploads/downloads counted towards my Rogers' cap? |
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aqualung40
join:2005-03-02
Canada | said by superchap :
if i subscribe to newshosting.com, are those uploads/downloads counted towards my Rogers' cap?
Yes they are. Any traffic in or out of your modem counts towards the cap. |
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superchap
@cable.rogers | reply to alexpb1
thanks. i thought so but wanted to make sure. i guess none of you care about the cap or you wouldn't be with Rogers. |
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0 | There are lots of people who care about the cap are still with Rogers (like no other option for hispeed internet!) |
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Roop
join:2003-11-15
Ottawa, ON
·Internet Telephone..
| reply to alexpb1
if you're concerned with your bandwidth especially when using providers with stupid amounts of retention, use nzbs. google "pizza" and nzb, and check their forums. also, check »beta.binaries.nl.
for those that don't know, nzb files enable nntp software with nzb support to download binaries without getting the headers first. this time consuming process can be as lenghtly as the downloads themselves since companies such as newshosting.com are unable to consistently send headers as fast as binaries. |
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none333
@sympatico.ca
| reply to alexpb1
FYI, »flashnewsgroups.com/ is their subsidiary and they charge 12.95 a month. Slightly cheaper, and should be the same service. I would also like to get some feedback from current users of their service. I need to choose a provider in the new year.
Thanks~! |
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dontbugme1
join:2005-12-25
Scarborough, ON
| reply to Roop
 Hi all, I had downgraded from Rogers cable Express ($44.95) to Lite ($34.95), save $10 and signed up with Newshosting @ US$14.95 per month unlimited with 8 connections but D/L speed steady at 47 KB/s. When with Rogers- Express(Giganews), D/L speed was around 60KB/s and limited to 2 concurrent connections. Overall very satisfied with Newshosting- recommended highly and you get instant signup without any delay. You just needs to reconfigure your newsreader (I am using Grabit Ver 1.5.3 Beta (Bilid 909)and life is back to normal except a few $s more every month. Worth it, if you cannot live without the newsgroups. LOL. |
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PHLN
join:2003-07-31
| said by dontbugme1  ::)Hi all, I had downgraded from Rogers cable Express ($44.95) to Lite ($34.95), save $10 and signed up with Newshosting @ US$14.95 per month unlimited with 8 connections but D/L speed steady at 47 KB/s. When with Rogers- Express(Giganews), D/L speed was around 60KB/s and limited to 2 concurrent connections. Overall very satisfied with Newshosting- recommended highly and you get instant signup without any delay. You just needs to reconfigure your newsreader (I am using Grabit Ver 1.5.3 Beta (Bilid 909)and life is back to normal except a few $s more every month. Worth it, if you cannot live without the newsgroups. LOL. I hope you understand that your lower speed is because you are on Lite. Which capped you around 48 KB/s download, total.
If you were still on Express, your download speed should be around 370 KB/s area.
If you are on Extreme, it would be, nearly 700 KB/s. Which is where I am, also with Newshosting. |
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alexpb1
join:2005-06-23
Barrie, ON | reply to alexpb1
lolol why would you buy a newsgroup subscription if you can only max out at 48kb/s? and you're paying more in the end and your overall speed is crap...hilarious. |
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dontbugme1
join:2005-12-25
Scarborough, ON
|  reply to PHLN
With Express, my D/L speed (for newsgroup) was 60 KB/s and restricted to 2 connections after Rogers switched over to Giganews. Prior to that it was 300 KB/s and 4 to 6 connections so that's why I downgraded to the Lite as Rogers was "squeezing" on the speed. I am in Scarborough and one of my friend in Markham still on Express is getting D/L 60 KB/s and 2 connections. Wonder any one else is having a similar connection speed though my speed check cable broadband test is at advertised 384 kbs and before that with Express I was getting 3 Mbs . So it is not hilarious and I am not laughing. I decided not to switch over to 3Web because getting a live "voice" or receiving an email response is like winning a lottery jackpot as their tech support seems non existence (athough I have my phone LD with them them for over 2 years). |
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dontbugme1
join:2005-12-25
Scarborough, ON
| reply to Roop
In response to Roop's "i've never had them completly down but when they are having issues, speeds drop to around 200kbytes/sec." How you manage to get this speed"? I use port 119 on the "unlimited" plan and I only get 47 KB/s for all my 8 concurrent connections using the Rogers Lite. When with Rogers' Express it was 60 KB/s restricted to only 2 connections. TIA  |
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0
 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
Host:
Rogers
Bell Canada
| reply to dontbugme1
dontbugme ...
Your maximum speed with lite is 384k bits per second. That is the same as 48k Bytes per second. That's the absolute fastest data can come down to you.
Before you were on express with a max speed of 3000kbits per second which is the same as 375k bytes per second.
With express the total of the data in however many streams you set up could not exceed 375kbytes/sec .... so 2 giganews streams would only use 64 kbytes/sec max.
So, you changed to newshosting which allows up to 8 simultaneous connections ... but because of your max line speed, if you were running all 8 simultaneously, you'd still max out at 48kbytes/sec ... or about 6kbytes/sec per stream. If you ran 6 simultaneous streams, you get 8bytes/sec per stream. If you ran 4 simultaneous streams you get 12kbytes/sec per stream, if you ran 2 streams, you get 24kbytes/sec per stream.
If you changed back to Express with newshosting, you'd be getting 375kbytes/sec ... and with 8 streams that would be about 46Kbytes/sec per stream
You can't exceed Rogers line rate no matter how many streams you're using. |
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dontbugme1
join:2005-12-25
Scarborough, ON
| Thanks for the insight. I will try again with another site in Scarborough (Markham Rd./Sheppard area) where Express is available and check back on your theory with Newshosting. As mentioned earlier, when I was with Rogers's Express and Giganews (two connections), the D/L was at 60KB/s and not 384KB/s results from two different locations (Scarborough at Warden/Finch and Markham at (McCowan/HWY407).  |
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0
·Rogers Hi-Speed
Host:
Rogers
Bell Canada
| said by dontbugme1 :Thanks for the insight. I will try again with another site in Scarborough (Markham Rd./Sheppard area) where Express is available and check back on your theory with Newshosting. As mentioned earlier, when I was with Rogers's Express and Giganews (two connections), the D/L was at 60KB/s and not 384KB/s results from two different locations (Scarborough at Warden/Finch and Markham at (McCowan/HWY407). When you had express and used the *unpaid* services with giganews that Rogers set up, the limit of 60Kbytes/second was imposed by giganews on the basis of what Rogers was willing to pay for. They paid for a max of 2 32kbytes/sec streams from giganews.
In other words, your speed from the news server is the lesser of your line speed, or the speed from the news server itself. You can't get any more aggregate speed than your actual line speed. |
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Plasticman
Will Work For Bandwidth
Premium
join:2002-09-06
Harrisville, RI
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| reply to alexpb1
Well I am not with Rogers but I do use Usenetserver and I have been very happy with it. Especially the unlimited download limit and they have been able to max my bw out. Once in a great while I see some connection issues but they resolve it right away and are constantly upgrading thier equipment to be top of the line. for what they offer and the retention time of on average of 37 plus days with an average of about 97 % completion rate for some of the more popular groups like dvd, erotica, sounds.mp3 and the availability of par2 files..... 15 bucks a month is a damm good price for what they offer....
Plasticman
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Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I cannot accept, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill today because they pissed me off |
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Peterg1
Premium
join:2001-12-29
1 edit | reply to alexpb1
I would add that newsguy is also having an offer for Rogers subscribers:
»www.newsguy.com/
Peter |
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