randywagner4
join:2005-12-26
Springfield, VA
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Ok, I need some basic info that I have searched for and just can't figure it out.
I have cable modem which is connected to Netgear WGT 624 Wireless Firewall Router. I am connected from Wireless Router with ethernet cable to Desktop with Win XP home SP2 in bedroom 1.
I have a Netgear WG 311 T Wireless PCI Adapter card installed in Desktop With Win XP Home SP2 in Bedroom 2.
I have a Gateway notbook SP Home SP2 with built in wireless.
All 3 computers share the internet connection just fine.
Now I want to get a home network up and running so that I can share files and folders.
1. Do I need any more equipment? Specifically, do I need a wireless access point. Everything I read about this is very confusing.
2. Do I need to install a wireless card in my Desktop in Bedroom 1? If so do I need to disconnect the ethernet connection between wireless modem and pc?
I have tried running the network setup wizard to share files and folders with my present configuration and I don't think anything has worked as I don't see any network in My Network Places and I can't see drives or files on other computers.
I looked at FAQ's and searched forum, but have yet to find this basic info.
Thanks for helping
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obeythelaw
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| well, you don't need any additional equipment. try sharing a folder on each of your computers and then see if they show up in my network places. are you seeing the computers names anywhere in network places?
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cacroll
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said by randywagner4  :I have cable modem which is connected to Netgear WGT 624 Wireless Firewall Router. I am connected from Wireless Router with ethernet cable to Desktop with Win XP home SP2 in bedroom 1. All 3 computers share the internet connection just fine. Now I want to get a home network up and running so that I can share files and folders. I have tried running the network setup wizard to share files and folders with my present configuration and I don't think anything has worked as I don't see any network in My Network Places and I can't see drives or files on other computers.
Windows Networking, and file sharing, can be a pain in the @ss sometimes.
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/w···ing.html
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/s···ial.html
Here's my troubleshooting guide, which starts from the bottom and works upwards thru the OSI layer structure.
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/t···ood.html
If no help yet, provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer, and we can diagnose the problems. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely:
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/t···gForHelp
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randywagner4
join:2005-12-26
Springfield, VA | reply to randywagner4
reading and reading and reading ...... |
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cacroll
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| said by randywagner4 :reading and reading and reading ......
I have the advantage over you - I wrote all that stuff over the past year or so. It was more fun to write....and write....and write.
Ask questions as you read.
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randywagner4
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Springfield, VA
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Ok I have learned lots of stuff to try. But I may be making a basic setup error when running the network wizard.
I am selecting the option that says this computer connects to the Internet through a residential gateway or another computer for Bedroom 1. Is that correct with my setup, or should I be selecting this computer connects directly to Internet option?
Also, all three computers are XP Home SP2 with Norton Internet Security. I am checking all firewalls now. |
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cacroll
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| said by randywagner4 :I am selecting the option that says this computer connects to the Internet through a residential gateway or another computer for Bedroom 1. Is that correct with my setup, or should I be selecting this computer connects directly to Internet option?
If the router connects to the cable modem, and all computers connect to the router (wired or wireless), you need the same selection on all computers.
This computer connects to the Internet through another computer on my network or through a residential gateway.
The router is a residential gateway.
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randywagner4
join:2005-12-26
Springfield, VA
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ok,
I'm making progress. I can see the Bedroom 2 computer in Bedroom 1 listed in My Network Places. I can only see the computer in MNP and then only when I select show Workgroup Computers. If I click on it I get no access errors.
And I can't see bedroom 1 from bedroom 2.
I have run the Network wizard in Norton Internet Security on both and made sure that I turned off Windows Firewall on both computers.
Any ideas, I think I'm close!! |
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cacroll
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| said by randywagner4 :I'm making progress. I can see the Bedroom 2 computer in Bedroom 1 listed in My Network Places. I can only see the computer in MNP and then only when I select show Workgroup Computers. If I click on it I get no access errors. And I can't see bedroom 1 from bedroom 2. I have run the Network wizard in Norton Internet Security on both and made sure that I turned off Windows Firewall on both computers.
OK, first go thru the short troubleshooting guide, and make absolutely sure there's no firewall, or other protective software causing problems. That's seriously 50% of the problems.
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/i···ity.html
Then provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer, so we can start the diagnosis. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely:
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/t···gForHelp
Do a brief eyeball of the "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", based upon these articles. Then post here.
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/b···oft.html
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/r···ing.html
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randywagner4
join:2005-12-26
Springfield, VA
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Here is IPconfig and Browstat for Bedroom 1. I'm working on Bedroom 2.
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bedroom
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 PM Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-20-AF-F6-A7
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.4
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 26, 2005 4:51:21 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:24:34 AM
Status for domain WAGNER on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{DF82F2E5-6457-42A3-8118-4C78EF741D47}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. |
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randywagner4
join:2005-12-26
Springfield, VA
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Here is ipconfigsys and brow stat for bedroom 2.
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : randys
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR 108 Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter WG311T
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-B5-4F-7C-7F
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:11:09 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:11:09 AM
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8050 PCI-E ASF Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-40-F3-66
Status for domain WAGNER on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{7AABCE81-8966-40AC-A7B8-FA7C884A4991}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: RANDYS
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master RANDYS
\\RANDYS
There are 1 servers in domain WAGNER on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{7AABCE81-8966-40AC-A7B8-FA7C884A4991}
There are 1 domains in domain WAGNER on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{7AABCE81-8966-40AC-A7B8-FA7C884A4991} |
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randywagner4
join:2005-12-26
Springfield, VA
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I used the Network troubleshooter and it told me to change Computer Names and reboot so I did. Troubleshooter still prompts me to change computer name (I don't know if it does that by default or is really detecting an issue) Reran browstat and ipconfig and posted below. Noticed that the browstat results changed on bedroom1.
I can ping ip addresses of both computers (ping bedroom2 from bedroom 1 and vice versa) fine. I can't ping my own ip address from that computer, it times out, but I think that is the way its supposed to be??
One other thing I have thought of is that my wireless SSID is the same as network domain (WAGNER) could this be the source of confusion?
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Bedroom1
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 PM Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-20-AF-F6-A7
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.4
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:02:49 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:17:45 AM
Status for domain WAGNER on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{DF82F2E5-6457-42A3-8118-4C78EF741D47}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: BEDROOM1
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master BEDROOM1
\\BEDROOM1
There are 2 servers in domain WAGNER on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{DF82F2E5-6457-42A3-8118-4C78EF741D47}
There are 1 domains in domain WAGNER on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{DF82F2E5-6457-42A3-8118-4C78EF741D47}
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bedroom2
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR 108 Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter WG311T
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-B5-4F-7C-7F
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:09:45 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:11:09 AM
Status for domain WAGNER on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{7AABCE81-8966-40AC-A7B8-FA7C884A4991}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: BEDROOM2
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master BEDROOM2
\\BEDROOM2
There are 1 servers in domain WAGNER on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{7AABCE81-8966-40AC-A7B8-FA7C884A4991}
There are 1 domains in domain WAGNER on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{7AABCE81-8966-40AC-A7B8-FA7C884A4991} |
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cacroll
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| Looking at both browstats, Bedroom1 can see both computers, but Bedroom2 can see only itself. What Network troubleshooter tells you to change a computer name, as a solution? Your original names were good.
Did you actually check everything in these articles?
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/i···ity.html
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/t···ood.html
If you did, let's try and enumerate your symptoms. Take the following code (everything inside the "#####"). (Please verify computer names and ip addresses - accuracy is crucial).
1. Open Notepad. Ensure that Format - Word Wrap is not checked. Highlight then Copy the code (Ctrl-C), precisely as it is presented, and Paste (Ctrl-V) into Notepad. Verify, and correct, names and addresses if necessary.
2. Save the Notepad file as "cdiag.cmd", as type "All Files", into the root folder "C:\".
3. Run it by Start - Run - "c:\cdiag".
4. Wait patiently.
5. When Notepad opens up displaying c:\cdiag.txt, first check Format and ensure that Word Wrap is NOT checked! Then, copy the entire contents (Ctrl-A Ctrl-C) and paste (Ctrl-V) into your next post.
Do this from both computers, please, with both computers powered up and online.
##### Start CDiag Assembled Code
@echo off
set FullTarget1=Bedroom1 192.168.0.4
set FullTarget2=bedroom2 192.168.0.3
set FullTarget3=
set FullTarget4=
set FullTargets=%FullTarget1% %FullTarget2% %FullTarget3% %FullTarget4%
set FullTargets=%FullTargets% 127.0.0.1
set PingTargets=www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.0.1
Set Version=V1.33
@echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Start diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Enumerate Shares >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net share >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Adhoc Browser View >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Full Targets %FullTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%FullTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Ping Targets %PingTargets% >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%PingTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "%computername% ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo End diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
notepad c:\cdiag.txt
:EOF
##### End CDiag Assembled Code
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randywagner4
join:2005-12-26
Springfield, VA
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Thank you for the very indepth education. I really learned alot from reading your troubleshooting guides. I solved my issue, and it was rereading your guides that made me go back and go step by step. I went back into my Router set-up page, and there was an entry for Domain, which was blank, and which my instructions said should be blank. But I read further and found a notation that for cable modem users to enter the Workgroup. I took a chance entered the name and voila!! I have a Network.
Thanks again, you have built an amazing set of resources and I appreciate your time working with me. |
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cacroll
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| said by randywagner4 :Thank you for the very indepth education. I really learned alot from reading your troubleshooting guides. I solved my issue, and it was rereading your guides that made me go back and go step by step. I went back into my Router set-up page, and there was an entry for Domain, which was blank, and which my instructions said should be blank. But I read further and found a notation that for cable modem users to enter the Workgroup. I took a chance entered the name and voila!! I have a Network. Thanks again, you have built an amazing set of resources and I appreciate your time working with me.
It's called patience and persistence, and you exercised both. Thanks for the feedback, and enjoy your network. 
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randywagner4
join:2005-12-26
Springfield, VA
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Well,
I guess I spoke too soon. I am having all types of intermittent connectivity issues. I have the network for awhile and then I lose it. I have run browstat on all three computers (I added my notebook) and I get varying weird results. Mainly I get an Error 53 on the bedroom2 and laptop. I really felt like this was a Norton Int Security firewall issue, because when I lost connectivity I would get it up and going again by rerunning the Network Firewall Wizard and configuring the location. I have not tried shutting down firewalls on all three.
I ran ipconfig on all three and found that ip addresses had changed for the computers (same ip range, but had assigned new addresses) bedroom 1 is .2, bedroom2 is .3 and notebook is .5
I ran cdiag script you prepared and it opened 77 notepad windows and 50+ command windows (file could not be accessed)I really did not think you wanted me to cut and past all 77 windows to the forum??
Any suggestions? |
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randywagner4
join:2005-12-26
Springfield, VA | reply to randywagner4
Chuck
what exactly does that cdiag program do? I have had problems after running it. |
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cacroll
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| said by randywagner4 :Chuck what exactly does that cdiag program do? I have had problems after running it. "ping"
"net view"
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/w···sis.html
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/i···ing.html
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randywagner4
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Springfield, VA | reply to randywagner4
ever since I ran it I have been experiencing internet connectivity problems. System Crash, (blue screen of death). Reboot get error message that says connecting to invalid address and something about the image file. Advice? |
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cacroll
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| said by randywagner4 :ever since I ran it I have been experiencing internet connectivity problems. System Crash, (blue screen of death). Reboot get error message that says connecting to invalid address and something about the image file. Advice?
None of those symptoms are anything you could get from running "net view" and "ping" commands.
Your report is vague enough, it could easily be a malware problem.
»Security »I think my computer is infected or hijacked. What should I do?
»nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/d···are.html
There is a major exploit out right now, that uses image files to spread.
»isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=994
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