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Re: Punch up those photos.......fast and easy.

Here is a portion of another thread in another forum that shows another example of the technique applied to an image: »www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=24919&page=2
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Created a new thread so we don't get off track on the theory & Photoshop-specific questions.

Here is the Gimp translation: »Punch Up Those Photos (Gimp Style)
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"Color axis" might be a bit too much imagery for some people. It requires you to visualize the color gamut as a sort of cube/cone.

A similar thing can be done in Gimp... I'll try to replicate it exactly and provide a write-up.

Edit: From the DGrin info ET posted, it sounds like overlay uses Standard Deviation/Variance to determine the amount of change in a given channel... interesting. So, in most cases it would serve to increase saturation, especially when used with this method. *Paging climbers See Profile...*

I'm perfecting the Gimp translation/comparison now. For those of you with PS Elements - you're not out of luck - Gimp has LAB functions (albeit not as thorough as PS).

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I am still trying to find out exactly why this technique works the way it does. This is what I have gathered thus far.

"The color enhancement makes sense for the following reasons. When A and B are overlayed into themselves, values close to neutral (50% gray in the channels) are affected least, everything else gets pushed farther out along the color axis and so becomes more brilliant. Lighter values in the A and B channels become lighter still, darker values darker still, which means Reds become Redder, Blues bluer, etc".

That info comes from another forum. More to come I hope.
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A new before and after. Again I used 2 new layers on top of the background to mix the best parts of both images together into a "best of both worlds" image.

Canon EOS 10D
35mm 1/180th F8 ISO100



Canon EOS 10D
35mm 1/180th F8 ISO100


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i don't see why you need lab color. as in ET's above post i made a dup layer and turned it off, then selected the 1st background layer, applied image in RGB, multiply @ 100%, then turned the 2nd layer on and adjusted opacity to to about 50%. nothing but resizing has been done..
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said by timcuth See Profile :

PPS - Where do I go to learn about this change (layer overlay and opacity?)

This quote is from the GIMP documentation. I have no idea what it means:

Opacity

The opacity of a layer determines the extent
to which it lets colors from layers beneath it in
the stack show through. Opacity ranges from 0 to
100, with 0 meaning complete transparency, and 100
meaning complete opacity.

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This technique can be very flexible and can allow a great deal of control over the final appearance of an image. For example, on the before and after photos HERE
I used two layers above the original background image. The 1st layer I used "Image > Apply image" and adjusted the photo to maximize the beauty of the sky. Then on the other layer I maximized the beauty of the foreground, again using "Image > Apply image". I then created a layer mask on the top layer and erased the portion of the image that needed to be removed so the best parts of the two photos would be merged. I have found that with a little tinkering and tweaking you can squeeze a lot of of a seemingly dull photo.
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Canon PowerShot A60
13.4mm 1/640th F4.5


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said by 35375105 See Profile :

Wouldn't this do the same as duplicating the layer, setting the layer to overlay, then adjusting the opacity of the layer?
I tried your suggestion with the GIMP, using 40% opacity. Does this look about right?

Tim

PS - It reminds me of the "Clarify" action I used to use in PaintShop Pro 8.

PPS - Where do I go to learn about this change (layer overlay and opacity?)

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Overlay @ 35%
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PENTAX *ist DS
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multiply @ 50%


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PENTAX *ist DS
1/250th ISO200


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noticed this works better on some images than others. it's also easy to lose detail. got to try using a couple of layers and % of opacity. this ones with 30% use as stated above.
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Punched up to the max:

Canon EOS 10D
24mm 1/180th F9.5 ISO100



Canon EOS 10D
24mm 1/180th F9.5 ISO100



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Good stuff, I'm going to make this an action
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One more. Oh, and happy new year.


Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XT
31mm 1/500th -1ev F18 ISO800

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Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XT
31mm 1/500th -1ev F18 ISO800

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Thank you


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Canon EOS 20D
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Interesting, seems like it's not doing anything to the bright colours, only the flat ones...


Canon EOS 20D
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Canon EOS 20D
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Worked great cvrefugee See Profile.


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Canon PowerShot SD100
7.9mm 1/200th -0.6ev F8


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Canon PowerShot SD100
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Thanks for the tip!
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