pannyhd
join:2005-04-10
Charlotte, NC
| DI-604 alternative
I have never had a problem with my 604, but I need some advice on an alternative router.
I need to be able to setup multiple filter schedules just like the 604, but I need a router that enacts those filters immediatly. The issue I have with the 604 is that if my kids are on their PC's or xbox when the schedule hits it wont close the ports until the ports become inactive. In the case of the xbox the thing never stops sending data over its ports so the filter is almost useless.
So can you recommend a wired router that does multiple schedules for different local IP's, that will clamp those ports closed no matter what.
Thanks |
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WeenieBoy
join:2003-06-25
Pasadena, MD
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Comcast
| Yes that was one comlaint with the 604 I had too. I bought a WRT54G Linksys router. It lacks some of the features the 604 had but does exactly what you wish. At that time it kills the connection. For me I block the whole internet for that IP at designated time. The WRT54G for some dumb reason can not understand a day cross over. SO for the other features I upgraded my WRT54G to after maarket firmware (FREE) and now I have all the features of the 604 and then some. Yes this is a wireless router but you can turn off the wireless part if you do not wish to use it. PS If you wish this router and want after market firmware AVOID Version 5 |
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pannyhd
join:2005-04-10
Charlotte, NC | So it will let me run multiple schedules? I looked into a Netgear router, and while it could cut off at the exact time, it only allowed 1 schedule. I need 5 different schedules. |
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tquade
join:2000-10-14
Regina, SK | Take a look at the ZyXEL product line. Pop over to the ZyXEL forum and post a message. Anav is one of the more knowledgeable people there.
Good luck with your search.
Ted |
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funchords
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
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| reply to pannyhd
If your kids do not have "Administrator" access to their computer, and you do, then you can create a scheduled task that interrupts the connection at a time that you choose. That, coupled with the DI-604's filters, will do what you want.
For example:
•Set the DI-604 to block computer xx.xx.xx.xx at 9:35 pm.
•Set a scheduled task under the Administrator account (important) to do an "IPCONFIG /RELEASE" at 9:45.
Even if the kid reboots the computer to renew the IP address, he won't be able to access the internet until the DI-604 allows it.
You'll have to experiment with the right command to do this ... it may be as simple as "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ipconfig.exe" as the command. Once you first create the task, you can edit it to add arguments ... such as "/RELEASE"
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pannyhd
join:2005-04-10
Charlotte, NC
| Excuse my ignorance on this. I am a Mac user, but the computer I want to block is my sons Windows machine. So I am not familiar with writing tasks for XP. Can you tell me how to do that?
I guess there is no way to do anything like that for the xbox.
I have done some looking into the Zyxel router and it sounds like it does exactly what I need, but people do not seem to like it very much. It got some very poor reviews at NewEgg.
Seems odd that companies like Netgear, Belkin, Linksys dont have the ability to have multiple schedules. |
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funchords
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
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·Skype
3 edits | Sure
First, to make sure you are the Admin and no-one else is:
•Log off anyone who is logged on (don't just "Switch Users")
•Log in as an administrative user
•Click on Start, Run, and type the command compmgmt.msc
•Click on Local Users and Groups
•Click on Groups
•Double-click on Administrators and remove anyone that you do not want to have God-like access (the kids), and click OK.
•Do the same for the Power-Users group
•Double-click on the Users group and add any of the names that you removed from the higher privilege levels, and click OK.
•Close Computer Management
Now to set the rule...•Click on My Computer in the Start Menu or on the Desktop
•Type this in the Address Bar, or navigate to it using the mouse: C:\Windows\Tasks
•Click on Add Scheduled Task ... the Scheduled Task Wizard will appear
•Click "Browse..."
•In the filename box, type (or navigate using the mouse to) C:\Windows\System32\IPCONFIG.EXE and click Open
•Name the task "Release IP Address"
•Click Daily
•Click Next
•Under Start Time, choose when you want to kick the kids off the Internet (e.g. if you want the kids off by 9:30, choose 9:35 pm or 21:35 if your computer takes that instead), click Next
•Enter your username and password, click Next
•Check the Open Advanced Properties checkmark, and click Finish
•In the Run: box of the Advanced Properties, you'll see the command
c:\windows\system32\ipconfig.exe
change it to add the switch /RELEASE followed by an asterisk
c:\windows\system32\ipconfig.exe /RELEASE *
•Click the Settings tab on the top, and uncheck the box that says "Don't start the task if the computer is running on batteries."
•Click OK.
Now, repeat the above steps to create the rule that turns access back on.
•Name the task "Renew IP Address"
•Under Start Time, choose when you want to allow the kids on the Internet
•In the Run: box of the Advanced Properties, change the command to read c:\windows\system32\ipconfig.exe /RENEW *
To test these rules (and you should), first ensure you can surf the net. Then right click the Release rule, and click Run. Try to surf (you cannot). Then right click the Renew rule, and click Run, Try to surf (you can).
And finally, the thing that makes this work:
Set your scheduled rule in the DI-604 that shuts off access at 9:30. So when the IPCONFIG /RELEASE happens, even if the computer is rebooted, the ports will be blocked.
I'm not sure if the DI-604 is one of the routers that will need two rules ... one rule from 21:30-23:59 and another rule from 00:01 to 08:00.
Testing is a good thing.
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pannyhd
join:2005-04-10
Charlotte, NC | Thanks, I will give that a try tonight. |
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funchords
Hello
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
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| Please get back to me on the real-world results.
I can't imagine this -not- working, but it's something that I've never tried myself from end to end.
I did test the steps I gave you, I just don't have any kids at home to "control." (except for me)
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zaxcom5
join:2003-02-02 | i guess this will not work with a static IP, i will need to switch to DHCP on my router correct? |
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funchords
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC | Correct. You would have to switch to "Static DHCP" (where it always gives a computer the same DHCP assignment based on its MAC address). |
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zaxcom5
join:2003-02-02 | reply to pannyhd
Let me conform that in the string C:\Windows\System32\IPCONFIG.EXE /RENEW *
there is a space between .exe and / and also a space between RENEW and * |
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funchords
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC | Correct |
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pannyhd
join:2005-04-10
Charlotte, NC | It works perfectly. Thank you for the help. No need to buy a new router noww. |
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a1smith
join:2005-01-10
| reply to funchords
said by funchords  :I'm not sure if the DI-604 is one of the routers that will need two rules ... one rule from 21:30-23:59 and another rule from 00:01 to 08:00. My experience with my DI-604, RevE3, F/W 3.51, is that you do need two rules. The endtime always has to be later than the start time; so you can't roll past midnight.
Another place this crops up is with multi-day rules: Sunday is first (earliest) on the drop-down list and Saturday is last (latest).
Most likely, Sunday = 0 and Saturday = 6 and they do:
if day >= startday and day <= endday then execute rule
If you put Saturday (6) as start and Sunday (0) as end the rule will never execute.
So, if you want a rule for the weekend, Sat-Sun, you need to define a rule for each day. |
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pannyhd
join:2005-04-10
Charlotte, NC
| reply to pannyhd
These are my rules and they seem to work as I intended. You are correct you cant roll past midnight on one rule. You can on a Netgear Router, but the stupid thing only allows ONE rule, how dumb. |
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