vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA
| How can they?
I'm not signing any kind of contract with Qwest if I use a 3rd party DSL service. I do sign an agreement with the 3rd party provider, but unless they include some kind of parallel language in their T&C, they can't hold me liable if QWEST comes knocking on their door for my violations. |
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insomniac
Oh Yeah
Premium
join:2002-09-22
Naperville, IL
clubs: | That's exactly right. If I don't have DSL from Qwest, I'm not subject to their TOS. Period.
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anonpronman
@69.183.x.x | reply to vpoko
Qwest bills your isp. Then your isp turns around and bills you. |
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vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA
| said by anonpronman :
Qwest bills your isp. Then your isp turns around and bills you.
They can't bill me if it's not in my terms & conditions. That's why I'm saying, the third party may be liable to Qwest, but I'm not liable until language is inserted into the T&C. |
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roamer1
sticking it out at you
join:2001-03-24
Atlanta, GA
clubs:
1 edit | reply to anonpronman
said by anonpronman :
Qwest bills your isp. Then your isp turns around and bills you. (AIUI), unlike with the other three Baby Bells, this is actually *not* the case in Qwest territory -- you pay both Qwest and the ISP directly. There are some small independent phone companies that work in a similar manner.
If BellSouth pulls anything like this to try to kill off Speed Factory and other independent ISPs, off to Comcast (business class) I go...
-SC
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
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said by anonpronman :
Qwest bills your isp. Then your isp turns around and bills you. This is true, but you aren't using Qwest's IP network or mail/DNS servers... You are only riding their ATM network.
An end user who sends spam isn't really doing anything that will affect Qwest since the IP of the sending host is going to be that of the ISP the user is connected to.
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