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JohnA
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA

reply to ebytes
Re: Verizon DRY LOOP


If you ordered dry DSL, it can't be put on your POTS line. It will come into the apartment on a second line. There is likely no existing jack for a second line, so it has to be added. As long as that is how it's done, once it's up and running, what you do with the POTS line should have no effect on the DSL line.


ebytes

join:2006-01-11
Brooklyn, NY


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Well......if all goes as it should (he says tongue -in-cheek),
the tech will probably take photographs of your rooms - check for cleanliness and then post the photos on the net. You'll be disgraced for life after that....lol


That won't be a good thing since my apt is loaded with misc boxes.:p

Did you arrange to have your DSL billed to your credit card? If not, your DSL will die a flaming death once your bill ceases in the cris/cabs billing systems (internal VZ speak). Once that happens, you will have no dial tone, no internet and yup you guessed it.....no Vonage.

I currently have POTS with no DSL. I'm currently sharing my connection with my cousin, who lives right next door from me. I figured instead of paying $48 and change for POTS, I can do the dry loop DSL through Verizon for $19.95/month and the Vonage for $14.99/month. This will save me some pocket change.

They took down my credit card info so DSL should be billed to my credit card.(I thought that was the only option available since there's no mailing checks) Since I currently don't have DSL and I'm ordering it as dry loop, I was told by Verizon customer service that it shouldn't disrupt my POTS.(I hope this is true)


ebytes

join:2006-01-11
Brooklyn, NY

reply to JohnA
If you ordered dry DSL, it can't be put on your POTS line. It will come into the apartment on a second line. There is likely no existing jack for a second line, so it has to be added. As long as that is how it's done, once it's up and running, what you do with the POTS line should have no effect on the DSL line.

John, Verizon confirmed with me on this too. So I hope all goes well. From the looks of it, everything didn't turn out the way as planned. We'll just see if my service will be up by 01/25.;)

Thanks for the input everyone!


ebytes

join:2006-01-11
Brooklyn, NY

my guess would be maybe some wiring from the NID to your apartment, as far as your package I don't know how well VOIP will perform at those speeds but I guess you will find out soon.

From what I understand, in Vonage's site:

Vonage requires a minimum of 30kbps at its slowest settings both upload and download. It is recommended that you have 90 Kbps to achieve peak quality of service.

I normally just check my mail and browse the web and won't do heavy downloading. So, I hope the 768/128 speed will suffice.


ebytes

join:2006-01-11
Brooklyn, NY

I managed to reschedule an appointment for them to come do the wiring. Looks like they'll hopefully be here on 01/23 and my service should be ready by 01/25. BTW, how long does it normally take to receive the DSL equipment?(Keep in mind I placed my order on 01/10) TIA:)


StarFish267

join:2005-11-25
Fort Worth, TX
·AT&T U-Verse


I think you live in Brooklyn, NY. The MCO is full
and they won't have an available circut possibly for
another 3 weeks, they will delay your SRD I am fairly
sure until then.
Not 110% sure, just an educatated guess.
--
»www.bootleggers.us


ebytes

join:2006-01-11
Brooklyn, NY


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I think you live in Brooklyn, NY. The MCO is full
and they won't have an available circut possibly for
another 3 weeks, they will delay your SRD I am fairly
sure until then.
Not 110% sure, just an educatated guess.


Correct. I live in Brooklyn. I called yesterday morning to have a technician come over to do the wiring since I missed them last Friday.:(

They told me no technicians available until Monday morning, so I took that. Since I ordered dry loop DSL, I'm not sure exactly if the availability of circuits will affect me. Hopefully not.


ebytes

join:2006-01-11
Brooklyn, NY

reply to StarFish267
I think you live in Brooklyn, NY. The MCO is full
and they won't have an available circut possibly for
another 3 weeks, they will delay your SRD I am fairly
sure until then.
Not 110% sure, just an educatated guess.


You're right. The technician came over yesterday evening and finished the wiring in my apt. I called this morning to ask why I never received my modem and installation kit. I spoke with someone from Verizon local and they confirmed that CO is full and weren't taking any order and possibly in February, there'll be available circuits. Any way to expedite this?:(


NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo

said by ebytes See Profile :

I think you live in Brooklyn, NY. The MCO is full
and they won't have an available circut possibly for
another 3 weeks, they will delay your SRD I am fairly
sure until then.
Not 110% sure, just an educatated guess.


You're right. The technician came over yesterday evening and finished the wiring in my apt. I called this morning to ask why I never received my modem and installation kit. I spoke with someone from Verizon local and they confirmed that CO is full and weren't taking any order and possibly in February, there'll be available circuits. Any way to expedite this?:(
NO....unfortunately.

davidsol

join:2002-12-31
Washington, DC

I would like to order "dry loop dsl" via Verizon for my new apartment in Washington DC. After reading these forums, I am unclear whether I can actually call Verizon and order "Dry Loop DSL" or whether I need to go through the charade of:

--Ordering POTS + DSL.
--Switch to CC bill.
--Port POTS to Vonage.
--Wait for number to transfer.
--Cancel Vonage.

And then end up with dry loop DSL via Verizon. Option #1: placing an order for what I really want is infinitely better. But if not possible, then option #2 is what I will do.

But beofore embarking on this jounrey, I wanted to reconfirm that the humans at Verizon are now taking orders for "Dry Loop DSL."

Thanks.

Yes I know

join:2005-12-30
Odessa, TX
reply to ebytes
You're stuck like chuck. You're options are to wait for an indefinate amount of time or start looking for another provider. And yes, I do know.

JohnA
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA
reply to davidsol
Try this link and see if you can order through it. »www22.verizon.com/forhomedsl/cha···dryloop/
It's for dry DSL only, ordered by address.

Yes I know

join:2005-12-30
Odessa, TX

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Doesn't matter if it is dry loop or not. If the co is closed due to a capacity shortage, there is no room to add new customers regardless of whether or not the actual line qualifies for service. It is all the same CO.

JohnA
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA

This person is in DC. Who the hell said the CO was closed to orders.
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