JeedaiKnight
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Portland, OR | Once a tax...
always a tax. Give the mouse a cookie...and he'll want a glass of milk.  :p
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maartena
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| You're absolutely right. In the country I grew up in they announced a 25 cent (in dutch guilders, about $0.12) increase on the fuel prices over a period of 10 years after which it would be taken away. The deal was that in those 10 years, drastic improvements for the freeway system would be paid for. That happenend, new freeways were opened up, existing ones were widened, tunnels and bridges were built, etc, etc.
But the 10 years were over in 2002 or so, and did they give back the 25 cents? Of course not! Now they had gotten so used to the extra income in the books - whether they had more freeway expansion plans or not - and the fuel prices never dropped the extra 25 cents.
And with fuel prices averaging between $5 and $6 per gallon (yeah, you Americans have no idea how CHEAP fuel is here), the extra 25 cents (now about 0.10 Eurocents) would have been a very welcome relief for drivers..... BUT they just had to keep that money in their pockets.
Its the same in every country. Once they instate a tax, its gonna take a lot of effort to cancel the tax, if ever cancelled at all.....
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GOLFnSUN
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Write your congresscritter
Don't want to be taxed for everything, then write your congressperson and complain about all the nickel and dime taxes the government passed and never revoked. That effort is called tax simplification. And here is a web site that can help you complain to Congress about tax reform:
»www.business.com/directory/accou···_reform/
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n2jtx
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Re: Once a tax...
Frankly I do not see the cellphone companies giving this up. If the IRS tells them to stop collecting the tax I am sure we will see the "cost recovery fees" or "other charges" go up by the exact same amount. Get used to paying it one way or another.
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TheWickerMan
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Enola, PA
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Re: Write your congresscritter
said by GOLFnSUN  :Don't want to be taxed for everything, then write your congressperson and complain about all the nickel and dime taxes the government passed and never revoked. Yeah, I'm sure they'll get right on that, just as soon as they get a break from all the hard work they put in raising taxes and their own pay. |
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BIGMIKE
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Re: Once a tax...
Spanish American War
$5 Billion
Iraq war to cost US $2 Trillion.
American Civil War
$62 Billion
Spanish American War
$5 Billion
World War One
$290 Billion
World War Two
$2,300 Billion
Korean Conflict
$111 Billion
Vietnam
$165 Billion
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packetscan
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Re: Write your congresscritter
"Write your congresscritter"
OMG aint that the truth.
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JoeOnSunset
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Ormond Beach, FL | reply to TheWickerMan
Yeah, right after the repeal the income tax... which was supposed to be a temporary measure, too, remember. |
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TheToro
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London, UK | reply to JeedaiKnight
and it's still funny
it's for me lol |
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NOCMan
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Flower Mound, TX | reply to maartena
Re: Once a tax...
Your gas prices are a result of Taxes not market conditions. Take away the taxes and we pay more.
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Cyron
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Charlotte, NC | reply to BIGMIKE
Are those figures adjusted for inflation? |
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TechieZero
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I typed that in and the Michael Moore website came up and filled past the edges of my screen with his loser achievement and twinkie eating face.
Then my PC melted.
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bmn
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hiatus | Something must be wrong with your PC since the GWB Bio should have popped up if you had used the "I'm feeling lucky" function. MM is ranked second for that search after GWB. |
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pnh102
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said by Cyron :Are those figures adjusted for inflation? Are those figures accurate? $2 Trillion is a lot of money... close to how much the Federal government spends on everything it does in a single year. To say that the Iraq war is going to cost that much is a bit premature.
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pnh102
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said by maartena :(yeah, you Americans have no idea how CHEAP fuel is here) You seem to be saying this as if its a bad thing. Is it wrong to want a cheap, stable, non-terrorist supporting source of fuel?
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footballdude
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said by bmn :Something must be wrong with your PC since the GWB Bio should have popped up if you had used the "I'm feeling lucky" function. MM is ranked second for that search after GWB. There is an ongoing effort between political groups to recruit websites that will use that 'miserable failure' phrase in such a way as to affect google's rankings. It wouldn't surprise me to see the leader changing once in awhile. |
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Tzale
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said by BIGMIKE :Spanish American War
$5 Billion
Iraq war to cost US $2 Trillion.
American Civil War
$62 Billion
Spanish American War
$5 Billion
World War One
$290 Billion
World War Two
$2,300 Billion
Korean Conflict
$111 Billion
Vietnam
$165 Billion
Show a source. Those are complete lies and NOBODY should accept it as fact unless there is proof which I seriously doubt. Two trillion dollars is around what the ENTIRE budget is. The Iraq war is only a TINY fraction of the national budget. Yes, it's a lot of wasted money (IMHO), but it is NO WHERE near two trillion dollars. And the cost of maintaining our military should not be included (even though it is no where near two trillion) since a military is required and it will ALWAYS be required, even if there was an extreme liberal in office. Being the most successful nation in the world is not easy. It takes defense.
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Karl Bode
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It's not lies:
»www.csmonitor.com/2006/0110/dailyUpdate.html
quote:
A new study by Columbia University economist Joseph E. Stiglitz, who won the Nobel Prize in economics in 2001, and Harvard lecturer Linda Bilmes concludes that the total costs of the Iraq war could top the $2 trillion mark. Reuters reports this total, which is far above the US administration's prewar projections, takes into account the long term healthcare costs for the 16,000 US soldiers injured in Iraq so far.
The numbers are correct, but it isn't fair to compare it to other war totals, since those other totals don't take into account healthcare...if they did, I can only imagine how much WW2 would have cost.
That said, two trillion is still a lot of potatoes. |
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pnh102
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| The report is still based on a few key assumptions (e.g. that our troops would remain till 2010 and such). These assumptions are not guaranteed to be true. Furthermore, the article points out that Dr. Stiglitz is a vocal critic of the war in Iraq, so we cannot be sure that his analysis is completely unbiased. I'm not rejecting what the fellow writes simply because of this, but just as it would be hard for many opposed to the President to believe the President when he says we are making progress, its hard for most people to believe those who vocally oppose the President to believe research that magically appears to advance their own agendas.
I'd like to see if Dr. Stiglitz did any research into the costs of the Kosovo, Bosnia or Somalia conflicts. Heck, as we're still in Kosovo and Bosnia with no end in sight, it would probably stand to say that these conflicts will eventually cost us more than a "temporary" stay in Iraq.
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