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major marco
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Re: No pay differences for IS workers...
said by jp10558  :HS is supposed to do all the basic life stuff - how to balance a checkbook, how to manage a household, basic math and the like. You're not supposed to need college to manage day to day tasks. What makes you say the above is what HS "should" be taking care of. Did your HS teach you critical thinking skills? Teach how to balance a checkbook or any of what you said above? Maybe HS has changed since I graduated in the 80s but mine did not teach any of the above. Those are sink or swim life skills that you either learn by yourself or your parents teach you. There was never a formal curriculum but that shouldn't stop anyone who is smart enough to get into college from learning on his own. That there are people out there as clueless as they are not only speaks volumes about the sorry state of education in this country but about the sorry state of everything.
Don't wait for public education to get better b/c it won't. It's not in the moneyed ruling elite's interest for the little people in this country to possess the ability to think for themselves. With the exception of a very few, we are a nation of consumers with a service based economy. We don't manufacture anything and all the best minds are leaving to work in R&D in other nations less theocratic than this one is becoming.
And with the rapid extinction of the middle class becoming more and more apparent, there will be two tiers in society.
The uber wealthy haves at the top, and scores of non insured, struggling, filthy, expendable masses at the bottom to serve them. Essentially, we're all witnessing feudalism redux. Unless more people extract themselves from watching chumping for trump and wise up to current events, this country is on the fast track to 3rd world status.
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| said by major marco :Don't wait for public education to get better b/c it won't. It's not in the moneyed ruling elite's interest for the little people in this country to possess the ability to think for themselves. With the exception of a very few, we are a nation of consumers with a service based economy. We don't manufacture anything and all the best minds are leaving to work in R&D in other nations less theocratic than this one is becoming. And with the rapid extinction of the middle class becoming more and more apparent, there will be two tiers in society. The uber wealthy haves at the top, and scores of non insured, struggling, filthy, expendable masses at the bottom to serve them. Essentially, we're all witnessing feudalism redux. Unless more people extract themselves from watching chumping for trump and wise up to current events, this country is on the fast track to 3rd world status. I am right there with you on this.
That's why we have taken it upon ourselves, as parents, to make sure that we are supplying the additional education and development of skills that our kids will need to escape the imminent 3rd world fate you mention.
Our kids attend public school, but we no longer believe that what many public schools provide these days is even close to what students need to develop into self-supporting, contributing citizens.
This has forced us into 'every man for himself' mode, which we feel badly about, but we simply can't save everyone.
My advice... Parents' blind faith in America's public school system is foolish and dangerous for their children's future. You must supplement on your own.
You would not believe how many people we run into that believe that their neighborhood public schools are the exception rather than the dismal rule.
Many otherwise intelligent people are in dangerous, community pride denial. 
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jp10558
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said by major marco :said by jp10558 :HS is supposed to do all the basic life stuff - how to balance a checkbook, how to manage a household, basic math and the like. You're not supposed to need college to manage day to day tasks. What makes you say the above is what HS "should" be taking care of. Did your HS teach you critical thinking skills? Teach how to balance a checkbook or any of what you said above? Maybe HS has changed since I graduated in the 80s but mine did not teach any of the above. Interestingly enough, in my HS, everyone had to take 2 semesters of Home Economics. Now while many people blew them off as such cute names as "Homo's and Queers" and the like, if you paid any attention, it taught skills (with "lab") as how to cook and follow recipies, how to wash, dry and iron clothing, how to sew, and yes, how to balance a checkbook. The only thing missing was the credit card class. I thought this was standard at least in NY, but who knows.
There was also some focus on budgeting for the home and childcare.
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