DSL sales also keep their POTS customers too

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TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ ·Sprint Mobile Broa.. ·Comcast	DSL sales also keep their POTS customers too A nice bonus for Verizon is that since they don't sell naked DSL, all those new DSL users keep customers locked into Verizon's phone service as well. And I suspect that they may then be able to sell many of those customers on bundles of DSL, long Distance, & wireless as well. The Fios numbers of $3.2 billion for 100,000 customer so far(maybe spending approx $100/mo) isn't great. That is $32,000 per customer attained. While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs), they better hope a lot more people sign up soon or the board will pull the plug on their Fios plans. -- -- Join Red Room Forum My Web Page
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soothsayer15 join:2002-03-01 Irving, TX	"A nice bonus for Verizon is that since they don't sell naked DSL, all those new DSL users keep customers locked into Verizon's phone service as well. And I suspect that they may then be able to sell many of those customers on bundles of DSL, long Distance, & wireless as well." Exactly what I was talking about. A Verizon Basher. You have no idea of what you are talking about. You are passing off your bogus opinion as fact. Verizon does offer Dry Loop and UNEP (Verizon DSL different Phone provider) DSL which can be order through over the phone. Never assume what someone (even me) types on this page as fact people! Read, Research, and think for yourself.
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TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ ·Sprint Mobile Broa.. ·Comcast	Really?? Well that isn't what their web site says: »www22.verizon.com/ForHomeDSL/cha···ault.asp Offer by Verizon Online for all new DSL customers. A $19.95 shipping and activation charge will apply to each DSL order. An additional monthly Supplier FUSF recovery charge will be added to your monthly bill. Early termination fee of $79 applies to one year plans. Verizon residential local service is required. -- -- Join Red Room Forum My Web Page
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Tzale Proud Libertarian Conservative Premium join:2004-01-06 Sweden ·Verizon FIOS ·Optimum Online	reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail : A nice bonus for Verizon is that since they don't sell naked DSL, all those new DSL users keep customers locked into Verizon's phone service as well. And I suspect that they may then be able to sell many of those customers on bundles of DSL, long Distance, & wireless as well. The Fios numbers of $3.2 billion for 100,000 customer so far(maybe spending approx $100/mo) isn't great. That is $32,000 per customer attained. While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs), they better hope a lot more people sign up soon or the board will pull the plug on their Fios plans. It's not that high. $32,000 is not "per" customer but rather for the network. Initial network upgrades are expensive, as they add more customers they won't need to keep adding as much expensive equipment.
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DSL4Brains Premium join:2003-08-26 Portland, OR	reply to soothsayer15 said by soothsayer15 : Verizon does offer Dry Loop and UNEP (Verizon DSL different Phone provider) DSL which can be order through over the phone. Where? said by soothsayer15 : Never assume what someone (even me) types on this page as fact people! Read, Research, and think for yourself. Mmmkay.
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TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ ·Sprint Mobile Broa.. ·Comcast	reply to Tzale said by Tzale : said by TKJunkMail : The Fios numbers of $3.2 billion for 100,000 customer so far(maybe spending approx $100/mo) isn't great. That is $32,000 per customer attained. While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs), It's not that high. $32,000 is not "per" customer but rather for the network. Initial network upgrades are expensive, as they add more customers they won't need to keep adding as much expensive equipment. I agree. And I believe I coverd that with this statement in my original post: While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs), -- -- Join Red Room Forum My Web Page
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Nightfall My Goal Is To Deny Yours Premium,MVM join:2001-08-03 Grand Rapids, MI ·Comcast ·AT&T Midwest ·Site5.com	reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail : A nice bonus for Verizon is that since they don't sell naked DSL, all those new DSL users keep customers locked into Verizon's phone service as well. And I suspect that they may then be able to sell many of those customers on bundles of DSL, long Distance, & wireless as well. The Fios numbers of $3.2 billion for 100,000 customer so far(maybe spending approx $100/mo) isn't great. That is $32,000 per customer attained. While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs), they better hope a lot more people sign up soon or the board will pull the plug on their Fios plans. Cable providers are doing this as well. Sure, you may be able to get cable internet without paying for cable TV, but it will be more expensive. Others don't even allow you to get cable internet UNLESS you have cable TV. Its a crock in my opinion. I would love to have DSL without paying for my phone line. However, I guess I will have to go with the lesser of two evils. Comcast in my area is REAL expensive. Their internet is just as good as SBC, so there is no comparison there. Hopefully, in the future, we can get rid of the bundled pricing/service crap. -- My Domain Nightfall's Hockey and Life Journal
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JFitch Premium join:2001-03-21 Pineville, WV clubs:	reply to TKJunkMail Verizon does offer naked DSL, thus why they have the qualify by address field on that page. If you have questions just ask in the Verizon forum on DSLR, there are many there who have naked DSL through Verizon.
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TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ ·Sprint Mobile Broa.. ·Comcast	said by JFitch : Verizon does offer naked DSL, thus why they have the qualify by address field on that page. If you have questions just ask in the Verizon forum on DSLR, there are many there who have naked DSL through Verizon. ANd I doubt they will get the $14.95/mo special package. -- -- Join Red Room Forum My Web Page
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grapkoski Premium join:2004-05-28 Washington, DC	reply to DSL4Brains »www.tampabaydsl.com/ try there
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Tzale Proud Libertarian Conservative Premium join:2004-01-06 Sweden ·Verizon FIOS ·Optimum Online	reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail : said by Tzale : said by TKJunkMail : The Fios numbers of $3.2 billion for 100,000 customer so far(maybe spending approx $100/mo) isn't great. That is $32,000 per customer attained. While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs), It's not that high. $32,000 is not "per" customer but rather for the network. Initial network upgrades are expensive, as they add more customers they won't need to keep adding as much expensive equipment. I agree. And I believe I coverd that with this statement in my original post: While the cost per customer will get better as they get more customers(covering more of the initial startup costs), I sometimes like to quote people I agree with and further make the point by including it again. lol.
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rollinraver join:2002-04-27 Buffalo, NY ·Verizon FIOS ·Verizon Online DSL	reply to DSL4Brains anywhere in fBA, there are 5 CLEC's that allow Verizon to add their DSL to the line. And naked DSL is available anywhere in fBA providing you are able to bill to a credit card (no debit card) and you are serviced by a plain copper line. No overlay DSLAM's or Remote Terminals. Your line must be copper from the CO to your NID. Naked dsl is priced on average $8 a month higher.
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JFitch Premium join:2001-03-21 Pineville, WV clubs:	reply to TKJunkMail No, the rate for 768/128 naked DSL is 19.95.
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hurl8 Premium join:2003-01-21 Ontario, CA	reply to TKJunkMail If you sing up at best buy you get a 20 dollar gift card that should cover for your activation fee.
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y3kbug join:2006-01-04	reply to TKJunkMail From »netservices.verizon.net/portal/s···11_23_05 DSL Without Local Service. Verizon Online now offers "Verizon Online DSL without local service" for Subscribers who "port" their local telephone service to a wireless or internet telephony (VoIP) voice provider, or who drop their Verizon voice service, or customers who want to subscribe only to Verizon Online DSL. Subscribers who change their underlying voice service will move to Verizon Online DSL without local service plans, and different terms and pricing from those that applied to their service before the change may apply. The changes regarding Verizon Online DSL without local service are to Paragraph 2, Definition of Service, Paragraph 8.3 (Changes to your local voice telephony service), Paragraph 12, Term and Termination, and Paragraph 13.1.1, Pricing and Payment.
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