  rchandra Stargate S G-1 And Atlantis Fan Premium join:2000-11-09 14225-2105 clubs: | reply to sycocowz Re: Translation
While I'd be very appreciative of this sort of speed upgrades, wake me up please when my broadband has monthly costs more like the Asians are enjoying on a $/mbit/s basis. I have a feeling you can just call me van Winkle. |
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  sycocowz
join:2002-06-13 Ottsville, PA
·RCN CABLE
1 edit | reply to G_Poobah In all fairness, RCN has given a number of free speed increases over the years. Used to be 1500/800, then they made a $10/m extra 3000/800 tier then they bumped the 1.5s to 3 and the 3s to 5 then they bumped the 3s to 5 and the 5s to 7 then they bumped the 5s to 7 and the 7s to 10 (all for free) They're going to be rolling out a 20/2 tier soon, it's still uncertain whether it will be another free upgrade or cost more. We can only hope.  |
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  JamesPC
join:2005-10-12 Orange, CA | reply to moko They already throttle my upload speed to 47kb/sec, in SoCal. |
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  WowSoMuch
@208.17.x.x | reply to G_Poobah "Hypocritical liar" - LOL
As opposed to just a liar? |
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  idoit_eliminator
@199.5.x.x | reply to JohnA thats totally irrelevant. Dont advertize a service thats unlimited and then cripple it in some way. |
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  G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17 Schenectady, NY
| reply to rcnman So, the problem is the customers are ignorant (not dumb, just don't know what the software they are running does). The big problem I have with the entire 'design' like this, is what it to stop RCN from saying 'Well, VoIP takes up too much traffic, so we're going to limit it to 50kb', or 'Too much is e-mail attachments, so we're going to limit it to 50kb'.
So, my question is very simple. If you ADVERTISE 1mb upstream, yet you don't allow 1mb upstream, doesn't that make you a hypocritcal liar? How is what RCN is doing any different than what SBC is proposing (charging more for faster speeds), except of course, RCN isn't bothering with the 'faster speeds' part, just the 'charging more' part. -- Sure the internet has lots of porn and piracy, but I'm sure there's a downside to it. |
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 JohnA Premium join:2003-09-16 Pittsburgh, PA | reply to rcnman
Just an observation, rcnman, but it seems a waste of time to answer those complaining on the news page. None of them seem to have RCN service. What a surprise. |
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  rcnman Jason Nealis Premium,VIP join:2003-05-02 Herndon, VA
| reply to moko said by moko :I agree 100%........what if 90% of our upload was sending doc's,would they throttle that?.....we should use OUR speed[what we pay for]for what ever we want to. The main issue here is the default behavior of these P2P programs, Where the case is now a multitude of customers boot up their P.C.'s and don't realize that the P2P program they downloaded is now running wide open and sharing files. Because of the masses the few people who do focus on seeding / uploading get grouped into the masses.
Because of our high upstream abilities and soon to come enhancements to that product offering we are not out to support the peer 2 peer community alone. RCN is not eliminating the ability for customers to participate, but is instead insuring a fair share to the community.
And as noted in the discussions we are in the learning process and the final rollout will hopefully have a configuration that will work for everyone.
We would be foolish to think this isn't going to cause some issues, and I know there are people out there who have strong religion when it comes to managing bandwidth. But in the end the goal here is to manage items in order to provide the best service possible and communicate that with our user base.
-Jason -- Jason Nealis, Director, Operations RCN |
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  moko
join:2002-12-22 Fayetteville, GA | reply to G_Poobah I agree 100%........what if 90% of our upload was sending doc's,would they throttle that?.....we should use OUR speed[what we pay for]for what ever we want to. |
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