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BarneyBadAss
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FIOS To be Installed in some MDU's

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I went outside yesterday and found this "Taped" to the door of my building.

I live in an MDU (think "Condo") where the building is has 5 Floors and each unit is "Stacked" (don't get the wrong idea with being "Stacked":o) on top of each other.

My area has had FIOS available on all sides of me for the last several months and now, here in the near future it looks like I will be able to get it as well.... WOOO WOOO...

And as soon as I can get TV over Fios I'll be able to completly say "Bu-Buy" Com.... something or other!!

I've blanked out some of the places to be kind to the respective places.

Oh.. sorry I had to use a Cam to take the pic instead of something to scan a copy and post that... but I'm sure it's good enough for everyone to read.
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---Barney

UofMiamiGrad
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Great Neck, NY

Where are you located? My condo building sounds just like yours. 5 floors, total of 54 units in the building. This is great news to see the MDU rollout happening.


BarneyBadAss
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Germantown Md, bounded by

Great Senica; Cloper; Metz; Dairymaid
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Edrick
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reply to BarneyBadAss
Someone made a spelling mistake in the paper :-P


BarneyBadAss
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Oh.. I have a real smart A$$ comment for that... but I think I'll keep it to myself
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Edrick
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reply to BarneyBadAss
lol whats the comment?



JTRockville
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reply to BarneyBadAss
That's great news BarneyBadAss See Profile!

said by BarneyBadAss:

And as soon as I can get TV over Fios [...]
Have you asked County Executive Doug Duncan why it's taking so long to give Verizon a TV franchise?

BarneyBadAss
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Here's an update.

The nice folks performing the installs are out on my balcony installing the wood that's going to be used to mount the ONT onto as I type this. (Word has it someone else will be "along" later today to install the "ONT").

Of course, trying to have any form of meaningful conversation with these folks is impossible. They don't seem to speak my prefered language which is PROFANITY.

Now to top this off, since I'm on the 4th floor, I found it intersting they chose to use something like a 60' ladder to lean on my balcony rail instead of knock on my door.

Oh well.. at least I don't have any mud tracked through my place.

Now I just wonder how soon I'll be able to get FIOS actually turned on?

Anyone know how long after they install the ONT that I can get access or is this a scenario where; they install all the hardware; hook it up; and then hook it into the main hub?

I did call Vz to see what the deal is.. and of course; no on there knows anything.... what can I say?
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Edrick
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reply to BarneyBadAss
I don't know how they do it for apartments but regular installs they install the ONT and plug it in and setup your connection in the same day.
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Ricky SmithVerizon FIOS User15 Mbit Down 2 Mbit Up


BarneyBadAss
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Get this!!

So I called Vz one more time today and finally someone had the sense to connect me to the "encore" group.

No one at Vz. had heard this was going on, so I faxed them a copy of the letter.

I got a big "OH"... and then they put me on hold for a while.

Finally someone came back and said they needed to get some information and they would call me back.... I've heard that before we'll see.

Apparently the sales department is getting simply hammered with calls from people wanting FIOS in MDUs and the sales group keeps telling them they can't get it.

Anyway, I can hardly wait fer the light to be turned on.. the it will be bu-bye to my curent HSI carrier... WOO WOO.

I'll post a couple of pic's here in a little bit
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---Barney



Gwailo

join:2000-07-16
Richardson, TX

reply to BarneyBadAss
I'm honestly not sure what the big deal is. I lived in Hong Kong for 18+ years and virtually everything there is "vertical." For example, I lived in a 44 story hi-rise with two apartments per floor. Others are up to 60 stories or so with 3-4-5 apartments per floor.

All of the phone service, cable TV service, electrical service comes up a "shaft" that is near the rear elevators and I have been in some of those 60 story buildings and it's the same.

Hong Kong is one of the most "wired" if not the most "wired" place on the planet with fiber optic everywhere and extremely fast DSL and cable service. Multiple story apartments / hi-rises are common here and people get phone, cable and electrical service so what's the big deal on being a tough trick with FIOS?

Seems to me it would be a heck of a lot easier than digging up one of these suburb neighborhoods with one house per lot. Am I missing something?



YoBoy

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reply to BarneyBadAss
Do you say "Yo" every other word? Or how bout "Dawg" or

"Knaw whut I sayin"



cdru
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Fort Wayne, IN
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reply to BarneyBadAss

said by BarneyBadAss:

The nice folks performing the installs are out on my balcony installing the wood that's going to be used to mount the ONT onto as I type this. (Word has it someone else will be "along" later today to install the "ONT").
It doesn't sound like you have a true MDU install. They long have been able to do installs where each individual unit had a dedicated ONT. If each unit had their own runs for telephone already, this was about the only real way to do it easily.

However, many MDUs though have a central demarc point where all utilities terminate at. It's in locations like this where installing 50 ONTs side by side isn't real practical. This is where the multi-unit ONTs were needed that would support more then 4 phone lines and had multiple independent data and coax jacks.

The other issue with this is who pays for powering the ONT. If a management paid-for outlet was nearby, then it was easy. But if the nearest outlet was paid for a tenant, could you require a tenant to pay for the power used...especially if they didn't subscribe to the service?

Anyone know how long after they install the ONT that I can get access or is this a scenario where; they install all the hardware; hook it up; and then hook it into the main hub?
With traditional installs, it's pretty much a few hour process and you normally can get on once they are done hooking everything up. It's not like they install it today but is unusable for a week. That presumes that there isn't any problems though.
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"What gives them the right to come in and do this?" she said. - Lady complaining that she was getting FIOS in her backyard.

BarneyBadAss
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To be honest; we have a central demarc for all of our utilities which is down in the basement, not for each unit on the inside or the outside. We also have a "Standard" patch panel for phone lines. You know.. its about a 4' x 4' block of connectors.

I agree trying to install say 50 ONT's side by side would be a tough nut to crack and that's definately not what's going on here.
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---Barney


Thatgeekinit

join:2002-05-01
Washington, DC

Is verizon concerned that a single strand or small number of strands to an MDU would not support all the bandwidth they need for each customer for IPTV, Video onDemand, and potentially 30mbp internet access? You would think that MDU's would have been first to get FIOS as the installation costs per potential subscriber are much lower in large apartment/condo buildings.



Edrick
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Woburn, MA

reply to BarneyBadAss
They still have to run all the wiring down the poles either way and its harder to get multi unit owners to sign up then residential people plus there are more residential homes then apartment buildings.
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Ricky SmithVerizon FIOS User15 Mbit Down 2 Mbit Up



cdru
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reply to Thatgeekinit

said by Thatgeekinit:

Is verizon concerned that a single strand or small number of strands to an MDU would not support all the bandwidth they need for each customer for IPTV, Video onDemand, and potentially 30mbp internet access?
No more then say a single strand would have trouble servicing 32 customers normally.

You would think that MDU's would have been first to get FIOS as the installation costs per potential subscriber are much lower in large apartment/condo buildings.
You are correct, they have a higher density so more customers could potentially be serviced by fewer dollars. The problem with this though is that MDUs don't fall under the same regulations as what a traditional housing does. Verizon would have to make arrangements with each individual apartment community for instance to get permission to install in the "right of way". Simply getting the necessary permits for the city isn't enough. If a complex doesn't want FiOS, they don't have to grant Verizon access.

There was a thread in this forum several months back about a guy who was trying to lobby his HOA to allow Verizon, who was footing the bill for everything anyways, to install his neighborhood with FiOS. Everywhere around him had it, but because the HOA wasn't cooperating, he didn't have it yet.
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"What gives them the right to come in and do this?" she said. - Lady complaining that she was getting FIOS in her backyard.


macrospect
All The Little Stuff
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Doylestown, PA

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said by cdru:

...If a complex doesn't want FiOS, they don't have to grant Verizon access.
Which is exactly what is happening where I live.

The problem is 1 person makes the decision without asking if anyone in our community would like it, or not.

Really sucks!

madrhino

join:2004-07-03

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reply to BarneyBadAss
In a fair and just world Verizon would be required to give priority to residents who deserve it.People who have been paying state and county taxes(not to mention Verizon/Bell Atlantic/C&P bills) for 40 years are getting skipped over in favor of "carpetbaggers".
This area is full of migrant illegal immigrants.Even worse, migrant federal workers who ooze through like the slime they are every election cycle.You can pack a lot of these types into a small area,making it more profitable I guess.
This is not a question of whether or not economics should determine broadband access.Of course everyone should have equal access.But FIOS is a premium service at this time and it should first go to those who are the backbone of the community.Since the older communities(whose taxes paid for all the roads that are god knows how far above the capacity they were built for) are lower density they get screwed.

To bad fair and just are a myth.

Edit-I live in PG county.I am 1.2 miles away from the Montgomery county line.I don't have FIOS but a crappy condo developement 1.5 miles away does.
But I'm not pissed off about it or anything.



macrospect
All The Little Stuff
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Doylestown, PA

I feel your pain


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