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A So Cal place name primer

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La Tijera = The Scissors
Palos Verdes = Green Sticks
Wilshire Blvd = H. Gaylord Wilshire (1861-1927)Co-founded Fullerton
La Cienega = The Swamp
Los Alamitos = The Little Cottonwoods
Aliso Viejo = Old Alder
Sepulveda = Jose Sepulveda, Spanish ranchero and Mayor of L.A.
El Alisal = The Sycamore
Coto de Caza = Hunt Preserve
Los Robles = The Oaks
Pico = Pio de Jesus Pico (1801-1894), last governor of Mexican California
Slauson Ave = Jonathan Slauson (1829-1905) Founded Azuza
La Brea = The Tar
Van Nuys Blvd = Isaac N. Van Nuys (1835-1923), SFV farmer and son-in-law of Issac Lankershim
Cajon Pass = Box Pass
Calabasas = Misspelled calabazas: Pumpkins
Centinela = Sentinel, ref the hill now called Signal Hill
Trabuco Canyon = Blunderbus Canyon
Modjeska Canyon = Former home of Madame Helene Modjeska, Polish opera star
Fontana = Fountain in Italian
Mulholland = William Mulholland (1855-1935) Built the LA Aqueduct and the deadly San Francisquito Dam
Chino = Chinese or Chinaman
Sherman Way = Moses Hazeltine Sherman (1853-1932), land developer in the SFV
Lomita = Little hill
Point Loma = Hill Point
Alta Loma - High Hill or Tall Hill
Ortega: Spanish soldier and land grant recipient
Lankershim = Isaac Lankershim (1819-1882), SFV agriculturalist
Irvine = ref James Irvine, first Anglo owner of the lands comprising the Irvine Ranch
Culver = His son
Myford = His other son
Olympic Blvd = Formerly 10th St, renamed Olympic in the scramble to secure LA as the site of the 28 Olympiad. Amsterdam was chosen.

That's enough for now. More later.
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HappyBunny Hi. Cram It. Premium join:2001-06-23 Long Beach, CA	Re: A So Cal place name primer This is very interesting--as a transplant, I've often wondered about some of these names.
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Here's a couple of quick So Cal plant facts:

Eucalyptus: Not native. Were brought here from Australia in the 19th century in hopes of being able to use the extremely fast growing tree for railroad tie wood. Problem was, they massively split after a certain amount of time under the sun. The trees in the community of Lake Forest in South Orange County are the remnants of the sprawling forests planted by the entrepreneur responsible for this wooden boondoggle. Hence the name we long time locals call the place: Fake Forest.

Mustard Plants: Not native. The seas of springtime yellow that cover our hills and fields were originally sown Johnny Appleseed style by the first Spanish Catholic Fathers, such as Junipero Serra, as they trekked their way up the state founding missions. The swaths of brilliant yellow that marked their path, now known as El Camino Real, were the forerunner of today's ubiquitous mustard growths.
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Redlands = Deadlands

Hometown for this NoCal transplant for the last 25 years. Redlands, named for the local very reddish clay soil, was regarded as the "Palm Springs" of the L.A. aristocracy in the 20s and 30s. "Deadlands" has been the common teen name for the place for, like, forever.

Interesting point about eucalyptus, Jack.

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The tree was also planted extensively in Northern California, to the extent that many really considered it a weed. Extensive old, dense growth of eucalyptus in Oakland contributed to the rapid spread of a devastating fire in the hills in 1970 (or '71, I disremember the exact year), when many of the trees had been killed during a freeze the previous winter.

We're going to have to designate you the official BBR SoCal historian, Cap'n.

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Extensive old, dense growth of eucalyptus in Oakland contributed to the rapid spread of a devastating fire in the hills in 1970 (or '71, I disremember the exact year), when many of the trees had been killed during a freeze the previous winter.

The fire was in '91 and you're correct about the eucalyptus being a major contributor to the severity of the fire. The other major contributor was the Santa Ana winds blowing at the time. If it had been a nice foggy, fall day there would have been little damage. In northern California the eucalyptus seem to have been planted as windbreaks.

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CurtesyFlush Bababooey, fafafooey, tatatoothy. Premium join:2002-08-23 Fontana, CA	Re: A So Cal place name primer Pasadena is Chippewa for "Crown of the Valley". Chippewa because the founders were from the mid-west. -- Wir U-Bootfahrer sagen: "Nein! So war das nicht!"
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The fire was in '91 and you're correct about the eucalyptus being a major contributor to the severity of the fire.

I was actually thinking of an earlier fire, pretty severe but not nearly as devastating as the '91 fire. The 1970 (or '71) fire was intentionally set off of Fish Ranch Road on the east side of the Berkeley hills. I meant to differentiate the earlier fire from the more recent catastrophe but forgot. Your point about the later fire is well-taken; as far as I am concerned all of the eucalyptus, living or dead, should have been cut to the ground after the earlier fire.
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seagreen Premium,Mod join:2001-05-14 out there	Re: A So Cal place name primer I was thinking it was the '91 fire because you mentioned the freeze before. The "freeze" I was thinking of was the '98 Winter Solstice Freeze so I was completely off in my dates.
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The Bay Area winter freeze of '90-'91 was the worst I'd ever seen. Temps were in the mid-teens for nearly a week---very unusual for the SF Bay. It wiped out most of the eucalyptus in the hills, but they've recovered since then. After the thaw, people discovered all the water pipes that had burst; the plumbers had a helluva year, I think more than a few of 'em retired in '91 on their windfall.

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Eucalyptus: Not native. Were brought here from Australia in the 19th century in hopes of being able to use the extremely fast growing tree for railroad tie wood. Problem was, they massively split after a certain amount of time under the sun. The trees in the community of Lake Forest in South Orange County are the remnants of the sprawling forests planted by the entrepreneur responsible for this wooden boondoggle. Hence the name we long time locals call the place: Fake Forest.

The euc was widely considered to be Nature's ultimate gift to mankind and promoted heavily by the California Dept of Forestry during the 1870s-1880s and into the early 19th century as a cash crop. It was rumoured to do everything from curing malaria and vinescale on grape vines to making a great base for perfume. It was a great source of potash for industry and believed to both prevent and remove scale from boilers (an important consderation in the era when steam was king).

Have you ever been up the 101 to San Luis Obispo? The largest euc grove I ever saw was on the Nipomo Mesa. stretching from Santa MAria to Arroyo Grande and must've been home to tens of thousands of the trees. I can't vouch for the truth of the following, but it was said to have been planted by a disgraced member of the Polish royal family who had been banished to the US after some affair that stood to embarrass his family. The way the local story went, he planned on making hardwood furniture with the cut wood. And as someone else mentioned, euc splits when it dries. When I lived up there during the 60s , the Mesa was home to every kind of shady and illegal activity you can imagine from cockfights to murder and everything in-between thanks to the cloak of invisibilty provide by the huge, dense grove. I loved exploring it when I was a kid as it offered a blank slate to a kid's overactive imagination. It was definitely not a place to be after the sun set as it became blacker than any other place I've ever been outside of a cave.

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CurtesyFlush Bababooey, fafafooey, tatatoothy. Premium join:2002-08-23 Fontana, CA	Re: A So Cal place name primer I've been waiting for you to pop in. Figured you'd have some history of the I.E., as I'm merely a transplant from South OC. I know the forest you refer to up north. Used to live in SLO and took the 101 route between there and LA many times. -- Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
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I've been waiting for you to pop in. Figured you'd have some history of the I.E., as I'm merely a transplant from South OC.

I know the forest you refer to up north. Used to live in SLO and took the 101 route between there and LA many times.

I haven't been north of Santa Maria on the 101 since about 1991, but would be very surprised if much of that grove is still intact and free of development. When did you live in SLO?

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CurtesyFlush Bababooey, fafafooey, tatatoothy. Premium join:2002-08-23 Fontana, CA 1 edit	Re: A So Cal place name primer said by Bloominite : When did you live in SLO? 60 - 65. -- Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
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Bloominite Premium join:2004-04-17 clubs: ·DSL EXTREME	Re: A So Cal place name primer said by CurtesyFlush : said by Bloominite : When did you live in SLO? 60 - 65. Remember the dinosaur in Shell Beach? Did your family ever go down to Santa MAria to shop at a big White Front style store called AFCO? My stepdad and his brother owned that store and its sister stores in Visalia and Fresno.
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I don't know. My dad was all over that area as he was the manager of the Security Title and Insurance Co office in SLO.
I recall Pea Soup Anderson coming by the house for supper a number of times, toting a few cases of pea soup each time. Also Karl Birkholm, the owner of Birkholm Bakery in Solvang, and the producer of those famous Danish cookies. We used to spend weekends at his ranch. He'd always bring tubs of those cookies for us, man no wonder I'm a sweetaholic nowadays.

We maintained dual residences in SLO and Capistrano. I'd go to school part time up there, then another part of the year down here.
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I don't know. My dad was all over that area as he was the manager of the Security Title and Insurance Co office in SLO.
I recall Pea Soup Anderson coming by the house for supper a number of times, toting a few cases of pea soup each time. Also Karl Birkholm, the owner of Birkholm Bakery in Solvang, and the producer of those famous Danish cookies. We used to spend weekends at his ranch. He'd always bring tubs of those cookies for us, man no wonder I'm a sweetaholic nowadays.

We maintained dual residences in SLO and Capistrano. I'd go to school part time up there, then another part of the year down here.

No shit, your dad worked for Security Title? My stepdad worked for Security Title in their San Bernardino office when he and my mom got married, then quit to go into business for himself in early 1962 just before we moved to Shell beach and then Santa Maria. His brother was an attorney with offices in Santa Maria and SLO and they were partners in lots of real estate investments all over Santa Barbara and SLO counties. His brother's practice dealt mainly with real estate so there's a good chance he and/or my stepdad knew your dad.

I remember Birkholm's well and used to make pastry runs from Bloomington to Solvang several times a year when they still ran the bakery. Did you ever make it to the candy shop in SLO's Chinatown where they made the roadapple candy?

You know what was my favorite place in that area back then? The Suey Ranch. That place was amazing and huge. It was owned by the Newhall Land and Farming Co and my stepdad was some kind of descendant of Henry Newhall. His mom made some calls and arranged for him to have access to most of the 40,000 acres of the ranch that straddled the 166. It was pretty cool, we'd stop by the ranch house and get a pass that allowed us to roam all over some of the most beautiful unspoiled coastal mountain land in the entire state. I'd give anything to be able to explore that ranch now. The last time I was on the ranch was the summer of '69, just before I moved back down here. There had been lots of rain that year that filled up the Twitchell Resevoir and made the ranch prettier than I'd ever seen it before or since.

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Yes he was. The office was on Chorro near Higuera, or on Higuera near Chorro. Before that he managed the BofA branch at Melrose and Irving in Hollywood, and the branch at Crenshaw and Stocker near Inglewood.

I remember that candy store well. I sure do like SLO. But, I like my high desert better.

EDIT: Is the Suey Ranch still in operation?

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I remember that candy store well. I sure do like SLO. But, I like my high desert better.

EDIT: Is the Suey Ranch still in operation?

The last I heard, it was being sold a few years ago. I don't know if the sale was completed, but I do know they are beginning to develop the extreme southwestern edge that is below the dam and along the Santa Maria River. There was a move afoot to have SLO county relinquish their claim to the area so that SB county could annex it and provide services. SLO just refused that move a few weeks ago.

EDIT: Here's a .pdf with info on the annexation proposal:
»www.co.slo.ca.us/Board_of_Superv···/c-1.pdf
And according to this .pdf, it looks like Newhall sold the entire ranch to a Heber D. Perrett back in 2000. I'd like to have Heber Perrett's cash. Anyone who could buy that ranch is definitely rolling in it (or at least able to put together some pretty impressive financing).

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Anon1980 @HITCHCOCK.ORG	Re: A So Cal place name primer I know Heber D. Perrett too well, and you would not want his money if you knew how he got it!
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listen up @ca.charter	Re: A So Cal place name primer I actually do not think you know a damn thing about Heber D. Perrett and his money. Go ask him how he lived as a boy and how he made his money, you will get an honest answer. and a good one, nothing dirty. next time do some research before you go bad mouthing people.
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Talk is so cheap. As a boy myself, my family went from owning a thriving and successful ranch to scrounging for fire wood in the city dump as a result of dealing with Heber Perrett. And we are not the only ones- countless others have lost "the family farm" to good old Mr. Perrett. He seems like such a nice guy, and sounds so believable. You have no idea. You mention research- I suggest you do a little- at almost any California county records division for example. My advice is never get involved with him in matters of money!

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CurtesyFlush Bababooey, fafafooey, tatatoothy. Premium join:2002-08-23 Fontana, CA	Re: A So Cal place name primer Yes. The Segerstroms had been farming in the area since 1898, mainly lima beans. SCP is built over some of their former beanfirlds. It was their project. -- Wir U-Bootfahrer sagen: "Nein! So war das nicht!"
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That reminds me. Costa Mesa (Coastal Tableland) has been known by a number of names over the years:

Paularino
Harper
Fairview
Goat Hill

Costa Mesa is home to an old adobe (Diego Sepulveda Adobe - 1900 W. Adams Blvd). It was built in the 18-teens as a way station for Fathers traveling between the Mission San Juan Capistrano and Mission San Gabriel. It's well worth a visit, although I haven't been there in 25 years.
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Olvera Street = After the first county judge, Augustin Olvera.

Wilcox = For Harvey Wilcox, founder of Hollywood, so named after his wife Daeida meets a woman on the train who tells her of her summer home named Hollywood.

Loa Angeles = Short version of the name chosen by settlers in 1781: El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula (The Village of Our Lady the Queen of the Angels of the Porciuncula River).

Culver City = Harry Culver, property owner and founder of Culver City.

Blair Hills, Blairstone St = Named after Blair Stone, grandson of the Stone family, Culver City developers.

Malibu = Bastardization of the Chumash word Humaliwo "where the surf sounds loudly".

Mugu = Bastardization of the Chumash word muwu "beach".

Ventura = Fortune, shortened from Mision San Buenaventura "Mission of the Saint of Good Fortune'

Serra, Junipero Serra = Father Jumipero Serra, missions founder.

Doheny = Edward L. Doheny, early L.A. oil tycoon

Dana Point = Richard Henry Dana, author of Two Years Before The Mast, mentioned the little inlet and headlands of present day Dana Point in his book.

Mission Viejo = Incorrect Spanish for "Old Mission", should be Mision Vieja, as missions are considered feminine.

Cahuenga, Topanga, Tujunga, Cucamonga, Pacoima and Azusa = Tongva place names. The Tongva were the aboriginal peoples of the L.A. basin and western I.E. and south to Aliso Canyon in South Laguna. The Tongva name for Los Angeles before the white man was Yang-na. The San Gabriel area was Sibag-na, and the settlement near the pass to the huge valley was Cahueg-na. Topag-na might translate to "the place above". Present day Azuza was a small Tongva settlement called Asuksag-na. Cucamonga was a settlement named Cucamag-na and might mean "sandy place".

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CurtesyFlush Bababooey, fafafooey, tatatoothy. Premium join:2002-08-23 Fontana, CA	Re: A So Cal place name primer "Ana" from the Santa Ana River, "heim" German for home = Home by the Santa Ana River. -- Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
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Fontana = Fountain in Italian

Fontana was originally christened Rosena when the townsite was laid out in 1887. That area was in what is now the central downtown area along Sierra Av. The area that is now North Fontana was known as Grapeland and you know that old quarry south of you? That anchored Declezville in what is now the Southridge development. The town was renamed Fontana by A.B Miller when he decided to develop much of the town.

Bloomington was supposedly named after the berry blossoms from the berries that were the main crop in town prior to citrus.

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Who remembers when KFI used to station ID with: "This is KFI Los Angeles, an Earl C. Anthony Incorporated station"? Unfortunatly, I do.

Who knows what the FI in KFI stands for?

Who used to read the morning farm report every morning at 0500?

Ain't that a pretty art-deco building?

What is station KECA known as today?

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Bloominite Premium join:2004-04-17 clubs: ·DSL EXTREME	Re: A So Cal place name primer said by tannman : Oxnard:Named after Sugar Beet Farmer Brothers (figures dont it) The town of Betteravia, near Santa Maria, also got it's name from the beet industry. Betterave is the French name for the sugat beet.
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Hey, my uncle used to live in Betteravia. God it stunk there. Whew. Never knew sugar could smell so awful. It's somewhere over near Santa Maria.

Does anyone remember when Sun Valley used to be named Roscoe. I was born in San Fernando and lived there until I was 11 (1949)...yes I am that old.

At the time of the name change my mother said it was a good thing. Roscoe was a wierd name anyway. Of course there is still Roscoe Blvd. It was probably some early settler's name. At the time I didn't think much about it, but I actually think Roscoe was the better name, historically speaking. Sun Valley to me is in Idaho.

I now live in Bakersfield, named after Colonel Thomas Baker, an early settler in the area. It's the county seat of Kern County which was named after Edward Kern, a topographer with one of the John Fremont expeditions.

In my younger years I lived in many places in Southern and Central California including: Pasadena, Costa Mesa (Newport Beach), Santa Ana, Anaheim, Buena Park, Santa Monica, Porterville and Tulare(in Tulare County), Hanford (in Kings County), and Delano (here in Kern).

Here's an interesting link on some historical events in my neck of the woods, the San Joaquin Valley: »kingsnet.kings.k12.ca.us/kcoe/cu···ine.html

I see Kern County was formed from parts of Los Angeles and Tulare counties.
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CurtesyFlush Bababooey, fafafooey, tatatoothy. Premium join:2002-08-23 Fontana, CA	Re: A So Cal place name primer said by PhiloVance : I was born in San Fernando and lived there until I was 11 (1949)...yes I am that old. Stick around, it'll take the heat off of me..... -- Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
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Re: A So Cal place name primer

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said by PhiloVance

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I was born in San Fernando and lived there until I was 11 (1949)...yes I am that old.

Stick around, it'll take the heat off of me.....

You're older than that in curmudgeon years, Jack.

To get this post back on-topic, Jack undoubtedly knows that Lake Arrowhead is named after the natural "arrowhead" visible on the side of the San Bernardino Mountains somewhat below the lake area. Over the years it has become somewhat less discernible, due to erosion and vegetation, but on a clear day I can still see it, even from where I work in Riverside.
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CurtesyFlush Bababooey, fafafooey, tatatoothy. Premium join:2002-08-23 Fontana, CA	Legend has it that Lake Elsinore came by its name by way of a little problem in translation and the unpronounced "H" in Spanish. Back in the day an early white settler to the area encountered a Mexican fishing in the lake. He asked him how the water tasted. The Mexican answered "Like hell, senor". -- Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
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hopeflicker Capitalism breeds greed Premium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA	Re: A So Cal place name primer good one capt!
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CurtesyFlush Bababooey, fafafooey, tatatoothy. Premium join:2002-08-23 Fontana, CA	For an envelope of cash, or what's behind the door that our lovely Carol Merril is standing in front of, answer this question: Why are all L.A. skyscrapers topped out with a flat roof? -- Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
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TwoFrogs Cacology adumbrates pendemonium Premium,MVM join:2002-01-20 Hell Main Fl clubs: ·Verizon FIOS	That was before helicopters were invented. I bought the DVD of the original 1953 production of "War of the Worlds" with Gene Barry to show my son how real movies used to be made. It's always cool to see the aliens zap City Hall. (I'm imagining Sam Yorty is in there.) -- Be punctilious in your own lexical fundaments, but overlook others' solecisms. -- You Got to Know When to Fold'em
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CurtesyFlush Bababooey, fafafooey, tatatoothy. Premium join:2002-08-23 Fontana, CA	Re: A So Cal place name primer When Darrel Gates watches it I'll bet he's imagining Tom Bradley's in there. Bob, yes, for really. Once the Bunker Hill area of downtown started to be redeveloped in the early 60's the Fire Code was amended to require helipads on all skyscraper type buildings. -- Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
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bobrk You kids get offa my lawn Premium join:2000-02-02 San Jose, CA ·SONIC.NET	said by TwoFrogs : (I'm imagining Sam Yorty is in there.) Ah yes, the Mayor who couldn't even pronounce the name of the city the incorrect way everyone else pronounces it. -- Iraq Coalition Casualty Count \| bobrk \| The Blow Kings
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