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ZOverLord
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Re: Windows Shared Computer ToolKit XP Details & Help

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The core of this tool is the windows disk protection which requires 1 Gig ("Or 10 percent of actual disk or partition size, whichever is greater") of use in unallocated disk space,
This sounds a little crazy...
Say you have 120GB disk, with a 50GB windows partition.
From the quote the utility requires 12GB of unallocated space. It should be 5GBs at most.
Why does the utility need to monitor the other 70GBs of disk space?
If for example Windows was on a 50GB partition, since the rule is 10 Percent of the drive or partition space or 1GB whichever is greater it would be 5GB.
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astirusty
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Re: Windows Shared Computer ToolKit XP Details & Help

said by ZOverLord See Profile :

said by astirusty See Profile :

said by ZOverLord See Profile :

The core of this tool is the windows disk protection which requires 1 Gig ("Or 10 percent of actual disk or partition size, whichever is greater") of use in unallocated disk space,
This sounds a little crazy...
Say you have 120GB disk, with a 50GB windows partition.
From the quote the utility requires 12GB of unallocated space. It should be 5GBs at most.
Why does the utility need to monitor the other 70GBs of disk space?
If for example Windows was on a 50GB partition, since the rule is 10 Percent of the drive or partition space or 1GB whichever is greater it would be 5GB.
This aspect of the toolkit needs the source, Microsoft, to clarify what they really meant. The "actual disk" is always going to be bigger than the "partition size" that resides on it. So again if Windows resides on a 50GB partition on a 120GB disk, then 10% of 50GB is 5GB and 10% of 120GB is 12GB. The 12GB is the the greater.
My feeling is MS mis-stated the required unallocated disk space for the toolkit. Thus, the requirement is not as bad as it first seems.

fegul
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Re: Windows Shared Computer ToolKit XP Details & Help

I only have one partition on the drive, so the space after NTFS formatting is 114 GB. Of course, I have used some of that so I have 50 GB left

All my drives are formatted with NTFS
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ZOverLord
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Re: Windows Shared Computer ToolKit XP Details & Help

said by fegul See Profile :

I only have one partition on the drive, so the space after NTFS formatting is 114 GB. Of course, I have used some of that so I have 50 GB left

All my drives are formatted with NTFS
This is the first time I have seen an error using drives other than "C:" and there are no known issues about this, so I wonder, did you use some 3rd party tool to format or create the partition?

Normally also, the install will not work until the User Profile Hive Cleanup Service has been Installed first, which is located here:

»www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta···=NYB7R76
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fegul
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Re: Windows Shared Computer ToolKit XP Details & Help

I have had that service installed for a good while now. and no, all I used was the XP setup tool for partitioning.

ZOverLord
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As I said in my original post, the documentation is not well laid out, but they do qualify it better here:

»www.microsoft.com/technet/prodte···h02.mspx

Quote:

To calculate required size of unallocated disk space

If you need to determine the required size of the unallocated space, you can use one of the following procedures:

• Windows partition uses the entire disk. Divide the disk size in GB by 10. If the result is more than 1 GB, that is the required size of the unallocated space.

• Windows partition uses part of disk. Divide the size of the Windows partition by 10. If the result is more than 1 GB, that is the required size of the unallocated space.

If the tool you use to resize partitions reports space in MB, multiply the calculated figures by 1024 to convert gigabytes to megabytes.

Note:

Some tasks, such as creating or copying CDs, use significant amounts of disk space on a temporary basis. If your computer will be used for these tasks, ensure enough unallocated disk space exists before the protection partition is created to contain the full contents of two CDs or DVDs.
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fegul
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Re: Windows Shared Computer ToolKit XP Details & Help

So I need to make my primary partition smaller to use this or are you talking about free space on the drive? If thats the case then I dont want to use this. But I doubt MS would require you to mess with partitions if this program is meant to make things simpler
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ZOverLord
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Re: Windows Shared Computer ToolKit XP Details & Help

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So I need to make my primary partition smaller to use this or are you talking about free space on the drive? If thats the case then I dont want to use this. But I doubt MS would require you to mess with partitions if this program is meant to make things simpler
Did you read the links I posted, you can place the unallocated space on other drives or use the same drive. The even give links to free utilities that will alter partitions and reclaim free space back to un-allocated space.

»www.microsoft.com/technet/prodte···h02.mspx
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fegul
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Re: Windows Shared Computer ToolKit XP Details & Help

Oh well, I'm not even going to mess with it. I'll install it in Vmware and play with it there. Thanks for the help though

ZOverLord
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Re: Windows Shared Computer ToolKit XP Details & Help

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Oh well, I'm not even going to mess with it. I'll install it in Vmware and play with it there. Thanks for the help though
You may want to post a message in the newsgroup because Never have heard or seen a problem like this that was not caused by dynamic disks:

»www.microsoft.com/communities/ne···edaccess
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fegul
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Re: Windows Shared Computer ToolKit XP Details & Help

Sure, will do once I get some time.
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