belawrence
It's All About The Games
join:2000-08-06
Santee, CA | Uh-oh
better not insult anyone or speak my mind, or I might get sued!?!?!?
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garagerock
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join:2002-06-14
Louisville, KY
| Part of the new facism our culture wholeheartedly endorses. Don't think, don't speak-or get sued. Corporations who indulge in this kind of media-come-uppance-to-boost-PR-and-therefore-stock-price behavior should make better products, not rely on lawsuits.
First amendment, anyone? |
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Red Dragon
Imagine BBR in 20 years
join:2005-04-30
Scarsdale, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
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By definition the software called Starware is viral. We define malware by a guide line not just randomly calling programs bad. It goes like this:
A) installs with out user consent or is not in EULA.
B) Does not allow for easy removal or tries to hide or protect its self from removal.
C) limits or degrades computer functionality by disabling certain abilities that were enabled before installation.
I am sure we can come up with others and refine this even more but the fact still remains that it hides itself with a root kit and will self recover if not completely exterminated. Heck it does not even show up in add remove programs.
For them to go so far as to sue in ridiculous. Perhaps this whole thing "annoys" them and they want to sue. Well hey installing backdoor software with a root kit that self restores its self if not completely removed is enough to "annoy" me and be defined as malware. What is worse it that it still is there after you uninstall the game. Until they start naming laws broken or violations made or they hand out a cease and desist letter it is just a bluff and has no legal recourse until they start naming laws broken.
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tapeloop
1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss.
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join:2004-06-27
Airstrip One
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said by garagerock  :Part of the new facism our culture wholeheartedly endorses. Don't think, don't speak-or get sued. And yet, when a citizen tries to sue a doctor for malpractice or a company for egregious personal injury, it's considered "frivolous."
Funny that...
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NyQuil Kid
8f The Nyquil Kid
join:2001-01-06
Brick, NJ | reply to garagerock
You can blame the explosion of lawyers for that - most of them today only care about how to work _around_ the law, not in working _for_ the law.
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tbeckner
join:2004-03-20
Bend, OR
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said by tapeloop :said by garagerock :Part of the new facism our culture wholeheartedly endorses. Don't think, don't speak-or get sued. And yet, when a citizen tries to sue a doctor for malpractice or a company for egregious personal injury, it's considered "frivolous." Funny that...
It is as simple as, the Rich and sue the Poor, but the Poor cannot sue the Rich.
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| said by tbeckner :It is as simple as, the Rich and sue the Poor, but the Poor cannot sue the Rich. . Umm, has someone not been paying attention..poor people sue the rich and win all the time. The problem isn't that the poor can't sue the rich; the problem is anyone can sue anyone else for anything and effectively there are an infinite number of scumbag lawyers willing to take the case no matter how ridiculous or immoral. Just look at all the stupid warnings on everything you buy, each one of those a result of a lawsuit.
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Actually, the problem here is that StarForce is headquartered in Moscow and they don't understand "freedom of speech" and "freedom of the press" as it is practiced outside Russia....
calvoiper
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stickfigure
join:2002-06-11
El Cajon, CA
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said by tapeloop :And yet, when a citizen tries to sue a doctor for malpractice or a company for egregious personal injury, it's considered "frivolous." Funny that... Actually what's funny is that we have less and less people interested in getting into medicine specifically because of the jackasses out there that use the system to get rich. Hospitals are closing because they can't afford to stay open. So many people feel health care is an entitlement or their God given right. This is totally off topic but I am getting so tired of people thinking it's ok to sue a Dr. |
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garagerock
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join:2002-06-14
Louisville, KY | well, there are extremes of course, but if a doctor botches something badly and causes harm, shouldn't they be held accountable in some way? |
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tapeloop
1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss.
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join:2004-06-27
Airstrip One
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said by stickfigure :Actually what's funny is that we have less and less people interested in getting into medicine specifically because of the jackasses out there that use the system to get rich. Hospitals are closing because they can't afford to stay open. So many people feel health care is an entitlement or their God given right. This is totally off topic but I am getting so tired of people thinking it's ok to sue a Dr. Yeah, we are getting OT. Hospitals close for a whole host of reasons outside of lawsuits though. You're thinking of invidual docs not being able to practice because of malprac insurance.
I will say this: you'd probably think differently if it was your Mom or Dad who was killed or seriously injured as the preventable result of some quack. Not saying that it happens the majority of the time or even a large minority, but it does happen. At the same time though you have people who don't want to allow any doctor to be sued and people who will sue because they got Percoset instead of Oxycontin. There's got to be a middle ground.
Back on topic: me being an individual and not a large corporate entity, I guess I'm a little biased toward the underdog. 
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SuperJoker
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA | reply to calvoiper
Well no matter what, I won't buy or even use a demo that has that software and Microsoft ought to make a patch that breaks It.:D |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
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let me just put it this way:
Beyond paying for the medical expenses and possibly lost wages; unless it was malicious or a recurring issue with a particular doctor, what exactly is suing the doctor for bazillions of dollars going to help. Basically your just saying you ruined my life so I'm going to ruin yours.
The sad fact is every doctor is going to make mistakes in their lives and quite a few of those mistakes are going to end up ruining someones life. If everyone sues every doctor for millions in pain and suffering for every mistake they make how many doctors do you think will be left?
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FLea973
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join:2001-02-27
Morristown, NJ
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said by belawrence :better not insult anyone or speak my mind, or I might get sued!?!?!? Stop using the Tenth Edition of the Newspeak dictionary... gets you in trouble all the time... stick with the Ninth Edition.
"Sued" v. past tense having your assets reallocated for the benefit of your and others enlightenment to better thought methods |
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stickfigure
join:2002-06-11
El Cajon, CA
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Actually tapeloop, since I know quite a few Physician's (including my wife), I know that generally most of them put their hearts into their work. You have to, since Med-School isn't exactly the easiest thing to get into or graduate from. And I am talking hospitals, not individual docs.
Your statement "I will say this: you'd probably think differently if it was your Mom or Dad who was killed or seriously injured as the preventable result of some quack." Is what I really take issue with. The problem is that when someone loses someone else who they're close to they make look to blame someone else. So instead of thinking "hey, it sucks my mom/dad died.." and that's it, they take it to "it's the Dr's fault, they should have done X."
Now I don't think that EVERY Dr should automatically get to do whatever the hell they want, or get away with anything. BUT I do feel that is one profession where people need to not be so quick to judge the Dr. Dr's seem to get less and less respect these days.
Anyway, back on topic. I'm really getting sick of seeing these big corporations threaten legal action just cause they don't like what's going on (ie RIAA and downloading music). It would be nice to see more people take up fighting this crap and then counter-sue the company. Maybe they'll learn to stop... |
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JimmySask
join:2004-06-24
Regina, SK
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Funny - Someone's a psychic
A quote from JSonfield, in the BBR topic linked to above -
"I hope the day dont come where i pop in a bought music cd and load up nasty driver viruses."
The date on that quote is 2004-07-14.
Do you think he knew he was predicting the future?
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briand805
join:2002-10-05
Los Osos, CA | reply to belawrence
Re: Uh-oh
I did not send starforce a demeaning email  |
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