cdw5510
join:2004-09-12
Langhorne, PA | reply to shimonmor
Re: Yeah but I like it
Its only 53k by standards. |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
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said by fiberguy  :said by cdru :If you want to consider the technical definition, 56k dial up is broadband because it uses a "broad" range of frequencies. Similarly, FiOS data isn't technically broadband as it uses a fixed frequency (although it can carry multiple frequencies at the same time, it only uses one for data). Wow! - that was, well... reaching. I'm not going to argue with that. And I'd never argue that 56K was broadband or FiOS isn't. I was just tossing my .02 worth into the argument as to "what's broadband?" debate.
One of the strict TECHNICAL definition of broadband is the transmission of data across multiple frequencies. Ever heard of 10broad36 as compared to 10baseT? One uses a range of frequencies (broad) and one uses a single (base). But both still transmit at 10mbits.
But over time the definition has morphed into other meanings, that, while maybe stretching what the original definition meant, basically indicates a high speed internet connection. But just saying "high speed" still is still arbitrary as shimonmor pointed out above.
Me personally, I say anything faster then 128K ISDN can be considered broadband. And it probably wouldn't take much to convince me that it could be raised to 256k these days.
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"What gives them the right to come in and do this?" she said. - Lady complaining that she was getting FIOS in her backyard. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to cdru
said by cdru :If you want to consider the technical definition, 56k dial up is broadband because it uses a "broad" range of frequencies. Similarly, FiOS data isn't technically broadband as it uses a fixed frequency (although it can carry multiple frequencies at the same time, it only uses one for data). Wow! - that was, well... reaching. |
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Fluker
join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN
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libraries are (from what I understand) paid for with tax dollars and they enable access to volumes of information.
Internet access, though used in a more private way, seems to do the same. It could be argued that 56k is good enough, but usually true 53k connections only happen on lines that are already nice enough that dsl is available. Most rural areas have only pair gained lines that allow 28.8 if you are fortunate. 28.8 can be very tiresome when it takes 20+ seconds per page if there are average graphics. do-able, but not cool. |
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asdfdfdf
@xtraport.net
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" Should the government subsidize "baby tapes" too so everyone has the opportunity to raise a child prodigy?"
You are comparing one wonderful thing with basic infrastructure that facilitates a great many things. The government doesn't subsidize every activity or application or service that takes place on the net, nor should it. This doesn't mean that the government shouldn't be making sure that basic infrastructure, that is an important part of modern economic life, gets to everyone, including those that the market has decided are not worth serving. The government has, in the past, seen that it has an important role in such infrastructure development, whether it be roads, universal electrification, etc. |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to nonner9
If you want to consider the technical definition, 56k dial up is broadband because it uses a "broad" range of frequencies. Similarly, FiOS data isn't technically broadband as it uses a fixed frequency (although it can carry multiple frequencies at the same time, it only uses one for data).
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"What gives them the right to come in and do this?" she said. - Lady complaining that she was getting FIOS in her backyard. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to nonner9
FCC's definition is 200kbps... |
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nonner9
join:2005-10-14
Charlotte, NC | reply to shimonmor
128kb is the definition of broadband given by some gov't agency (fcc maybe?) |
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shimonmor
join:2000-12-30
Sedro Woolley, WA
 ·wavebroadband
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said by Fluker :To me it would seem that 128k is a necessity. What about 56k? Your 128k number is way to arbitrary.
said by Fluker :The internet is a great resource and can be very empowering for a growing mind in need of information It sure can be. But that doesn't make it a necessity. The library can be even more empowering because it gets you off your butt and into the real world. Also those tapes of Mozart they make for babies can be wonderful for growing minds too. Should the government subsidize "baby tapes" too so everyone has the opportunity to raise a child prodigy? |
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Fluker
join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN
| To me it would seem that 128k is a necessity. The internet is a great resource and can be very empowering for a growing mind in need of information
Anything beyond that is a luxury. Multimedia is fun but by no means necessary. Maybe schools and libraries "need" broadband simply to serve up decent page load times to a larger number of people. But aside from that, staying connected doesn't mean requiring a big pipe. Just as transportation doesn't mean owning a Lexus. |
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