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shimonmor

join:2000-12-30
Sedro Woolley, WA
·wavebroadband

reply to Fluker
Re: Yeah but I like it

said by Fluker See Profile :

To me it would seem that 128k is a necessity.
What about 56k? Your 128k number is way to arbitrary.

said by Fluker See Profile :

The internet is a great resource and can be very empowering for a growing mind in need of information
It sure can be. But that doesn't make it a necessity. The library can be even more empowering because it gets you off your butt and into the real world. Also those tapes of Mozart they make for babies can be wonderful for growing minds too. Should the government subsidize "baby tapes" too so everyone has the opportunity to raise a child prodigy?

nonner9

join:2005-10-14
Charlotte, NC
128kb is the definition of broadband given by some gov't agency (fcc maybe?)


Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
FCC's definition is 200kbps...


cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN

reply to nonner9
If you want to consider the technical definition, 56k dial up is broadband because it uses a "broad" range of frequencies. Similarly, FiOS data isn't technically broadband as it uses a fixed frequency (although it can carry multiple frequencies at the same time, it only uses one for data).
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"What gives them the right to come in and do this?" she said. - Lady complaining that she was getting FIOS in her backyard.


asdfdfdf

@xtraport.net

reply to shimonmor
" Should the government subsidize "baby tapes" too so everyone has the opportunity to raise a child prodigy?"

You are comparing one wonderful thing with basic infrastructure that facilitates a great many things. The government doesn't subsidize every activity or application or service that takes place on the net, nor should it. This doesn't mean that the government shouldn't be making sure that basic infrastructure, that is an important part of modern economic life, gets to everyone, including those that the market has decided are not worth serving. The government has, in the past, seen that it has an important role in such infrastructure development, whether it be roads, universal electrification, etc.

fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20

reply to cdru
said by cdru See Profile :

If you want to consider the technical definition, 56k dial up is broadband because it uses a "broad" range of frequencies. Similarly, FiOS data isn't technically broadband as it uses a fixed frequency (although it can carry multiple frequencies at the same time, it only uses one for data).
Wow! - that was, well... reaching.


cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN

said by fiberguy See Profile :

said by cdru See Profile :

If you want to consider the technical definition, 56k dial up is broadband because it uses a "broad" range of frequencies. Similarly, FiOS data isn't technically broadband as it uses a fixed frequency (although it can carry multiple frequencies at the same time, it only uses one for data).
Wow! - that was, well... reaching.
I'm not going to argue with that. And I'd never argue that 56K was broadband or FiOS isn't. I was just tossing my .02 worth into the argument as to "what's broadband?" debate.

One of the strict TECHNICAL definition of broadband is the transmission of data across multiple frequencies. Ever heard of 10broad36 as compared to 10baseT? One uses a range of frequencies (broad) and one uses a single (base). But both still transmit at 10mbits.

But over time the definition has morphed into other meanings, that, while maybe stretching what the original definition meant, basically indicates a high speed internet connection. But just saying "high speed" still is still arbitrary as shimonmor See Profile pointed out above.

Me personally, I say anything faster then 128K ISDN can be considered broadband. And it probably wouldn't take much to convince me that it could be raised to 256k these days.
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"What gives them the right to come in and do this?" she said. - Lady complaining that she was getting FIOS in her backyard.

cdw5510

join:2004-09-12
Langhorne, PA
reply to shimonmor
Its only 53k by standards.
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