TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| Good idea
Now that is the best idea I have heard for IPTV yet and should be looked at further.
Why not leave broadcast, digital quality TV to a push technology like Satellite where the infrastructure and technology already exist and leave IPTV for the video on demand services which are available on a request basis only.
Combined with DVR capabilities this method would drastically reduce the amount of bandwidth needed to IPTV service. |
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| said by TelecomJunky  :Why not leave broadcast, digital quality TV to a push technology like Satellite where the infrastructure and technology already exist and leave IPTV for the video on demand services which are available on a request basis only. Because Satellite TV is prone to weather related mishaps. IPTV isn't. |
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| I have had direcTV or dishnet from the time they launched. I have had them in 5 different homes. If installed properly, weather related mishaps are non-existent. Cable suffers weather related issues far worse than satellite.
Don't even say digital cable, its a joke, less than 25% of their channels are even broadcast digitally and cost wise cable is nearly twice what the equivalent channel packages are through dishnet or directv. |
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| said by TelecomJunky :I have had direcTV or dishnet from the time they launched. I have had them in 5 different homes. If installed properly, weather related mishaps are non-existent. Cable suffers weather related issues far worse than satellite. Don't even say digital cable, its a joke, less than 25% of their channels are even broadcast digitally and cost wise cable is nearly twice what the equivalent channel packages are through dishnet or directv. Really, explain why my digital cable has never gone out yet my friend comes over all the time to watch the game because it's "too cloudy".
And your price argument has been proven again and again to be false. |
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GOLFnSUN
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Avalon, NJ
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said by TelecomJunky :Don't even say digital cable, its a joke, less than 25% of their channels are even broadcast digitally and cost wise cable is nearly twice what the equivalent channel packages are through dishnet or directv. That all depends on where you live and what cable company you have. My cable access is 100% digital channels, just like satellite. And compression ratios are as good as or better than the equivalent satellite channels.
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richardpor
Fur it up
join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR | reply to TelecomJunky
Because not everybody can get satellite. My apartment is facing the wrong direction. I do not have line of sight. Also I can not permanently mount it. I would have to use a tripod. Also from Verizon:
" you live in apartment,no FIOS for you" |
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cooperaaaron
join:2004-04-10
Joliet, IL
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I have both and I have had more issues with cable than my Direct. Your friend's set up is suspect. I have had 3 inturruptions since I had Direct, they were for supercell storms in the line of site ( not neccessary right over the house ) and then only for a short time ( maybe the longest was for 5 minutes or so ). So, I can speak from experience because I used to work for Comcast as a warehouse tech and a sub-contractor and I installed my own Direct dishes on 3 homes where I pay the Direct bills.  |
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nightshade74
Yet another genxer
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join:2004-11-06
Prattville, AL | reply to Matt
I'd have to say your friends dish install bites.
I ran to DTV 3 years ago from charter. I can
only think of 1 outage. |
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jstep73
join:2004-02-28
Rock Island, IL | reply to Matt
Results may vary.  |
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puck0114
join:2005-12-24
Washington, DC
·RCN CABLE
·AT&T Yahoo
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I've had Dish for a year and a half and have only experienced one outage for about five minutes during a particularly intense storm.
When I had Charter cable, I had more outages than that during a year. Most lasted more than five minutes and a couple required a tech to come fix things. |
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Freezone
join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI
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Rather than argue which is better be glad that the other exist at all. Cable and sat keep each other honest. I have had both and the only reason that I left directv was on demand. Now this solution may lead me to want to go back since cable cost way too much. |
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
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said by Matt :said by TelecomJunky :I have had direcTV or dishnet from the time they launched. I have had them in 5 different homes. If installed properly, weather related mishaps are non-existent. Cable suffers weather related issues far worse than satellite. Don't even say digital cable, its a joke, less than 25% of their channels are even broadcast digitally and cost wise cable is nearly twice what the equivalent channel packages are through dishnet or directv. Really, explain why my digital cable has never gone out yet my friend comes over all the time to watch the game because it's "too cloudy". And your price argument has been proven again and again to be false. Obviously, I can't quote on cable prices across the board but where I live comcast charges $80 a month for the digital silver plan with HBO.
I can get the equivalent through Dishnet for $42.99.
Both charge relatively the same extra for HDTV and locals.
Any channel below 75 on Comcast is analog and crappy.
As for the 1 guy you know having dish problems, my guess, and others on here I see, is his install is not good. My guess the cheap-o installer who setup his service didn't bother to spend the 5 minutes it takes to fine tune the dish. If he has direcTV he should make sure his signal is not below 85 before the installer leaves, if he has dish he should look at above 100 signals.
Keep in mind both are different scales, i.e. 100 is the max on dtv and 120, I believe is the max on dishnet.
In addition, if you friend has any large trees obstructing his dish he could be having problems, again an issue for installation. You need to pick a spot clear of any obstructions. |
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | reply to Matt
YOU ARE LUCKY I have Comcast cable in chicago and it goes out at least once a month for about 30 min to a hour and the freeze ups sucks |
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
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said by TelecomJunky :said by Matt :said by TelecomJunky :I have had direcTV or dishnet from the time they launched. I have had them in 5 different homes. If installed properly, weather related mishaps are non-existent. Cable suffers weather related issues far worse than satellite. Don't even say digital cable, its a joke, less than 25% of their channels are even broadcast digitally and cost wise cable is nearly twice what the equivalent channel packages are through dishnet or directv. Really, explain why my digital cable has never gone out yet my friend comes over all the time to watch the game because it's "too cloudy". And your price argument has been proven again and again to be false. Obviously, I can't quote on cable prices across the board but where I live comcast charges $80 a month for the digital silver plan with HBO. I can get the equivalent through Dishnet for $42.99. Both charge relatively the same extra for HDTV and locals. Any channel below 75 on Comcast is analog and crappy. As for the 1 guy you know having dish problems, my guess, and others on here I see, is his install is not good. My guess the cheap-o installer who setup his service didn't bother to spend the 5 minutes it takes to fine tune the dish. If he has direcTV he should make sure his signal is not below 85 before the installer leaves, if he has dish he should look at above 100 signals. Keep in mind both are different scales, i.e. 100 is the max on dtv and 120, I believe is the max on dishnet. In addition, if you friend has any large trees obstructing his dish he could be having problems, again an issue for installation. You need to pick a spot clear of any obstructions. According to the DTV website, no you can't:
»www.directtv.com/DTVAPP/learn/Pa···ison.jsp
It would take their 93.99 package to match what I get from Time Warner for $80/month ... and I get a DVR with my package. |
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nightshade74
Yet another genxer
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join:2004-11-06
Prattville, AL
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| said by Matt :According to the DTV website, no you can't: » www.directtv.com/DTVAPP/learn/Pa···ison.jspIt would take their 93.99 package to match what I get from Time Warner for $80/month ... and I get a DVR with my package. Maybe he can...
1) He didnt mention Time Warner he mentioned Comcast and
what he got
2) He didnt mention directv he mentioned dishnet
3) Many Sat providers offer an additional discount
for baby-bell customers. IE I get an additional
$10 off my bill for having DSL |
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