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richk_1957
If ..Then..Else
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join:2001-04-11
Minas Tirith
reply to Jafo232
Re: Good Luck

Yeah, but [like some others] they assume that if you record it, you are going to distribute it!

biochemistry

join:2003-05-09
92361
reply to tc1uscg
If it doesn't have crap on, then it would seem that it would be a good choice for you. Why then do you want Encore (which mostly has old movies)?


Toadman
How do you like these Apples

join:2001-11-28
Medina, OH
reply to IanR
I just canceled HBO as well, and had HBO on demand. Guess what, the on-demand is cool concept, but the movies they had on-demand are already seen crap!

No_Code

join:2003-12-12
reply to ogar
I think HBO is more concerned about their original series such as Curb Your Enthusiam, The Sopranos, et. al. than with people ripping off movies from them.

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

reply to rawwhide
Still don't need a VCR. Buy a $75 Hauppauge WinTV board (or equivalent) and either hook up RF or composite video to your PC. Record the RF/composite directly to MPEG2.

The only issue: Do the VOD/DVR devices employ classic MacroVision copy protection? If so, then you'd need a small "black box" in the middle of the video to trim the MacroVision encoding. I believe they use "off screen" video scan lines to overwhelm the automatic gain governing circuits on recorders. Although your TV's presentation of the signal is unaffected, a recording ends up with wide swings in brightness which makes it too irritating to watch.


BillTager

join:2000-09-20
Charlotte, NC

said by rradina See Profile :

Still don't need a VCR. Buy a $75 Hauppauge WinTV board (or equivalent) and either hook up RF or composite video to your PC. Record the RF/composite directly to MPEG2.

The only issue: Do the VOD/DVR devices employ classic MacroVision copy protection? If so, then you'd need a small "black box" in the middle of the video to trim the MacroVision encoding. I believe they use "off screen" video scan lines to overwhelm the automatic gain governing circuits on recorders. Although your TV's presentation of the signal is unaffected, a recording ends up with wide swings in brightness which makes it too irritating to watch.
You talking about this? I use this in between my STB and my Hauppauge PVR250 tuner using MCE. It works for the MacroVision, but I think that VOB uses a different mechanism to set copy protection and expiration dates.
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Pirate515
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join:2001-01-22
Brooklyn, NY

 reply to Jmartz
said by Jmartz See Profile :

HBO on Demand is offered for FREE on just about every Cable System that carries it... so with your subscription, you'd get to watch the movies on there whenever you want to... so recording from that channel really is not necessary.
I don't know where you get your information from, but On Demand channels are NOT free, at least not on all cable systems. For example, Cablevision (cable company that serves my area), charges $5 extra for every premium On Demand channel (i.e. HBO On Demand, ShowTime on Demand etc.) I personally find a DVR to be a better value as I can record things from ALL channels that I subscribe to and then watch them later on.
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rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

reply to BillTager
said by BillTager See Profile :

You talking about this? I use this in between my STB and my Hauppauge PVR250 tuner using MCE. It works for the MacroVision, but I think that VOB uses a different mechanism to set copy protection and expiration dates.
That looks like it would do the trick! I love the marketing speak; "...stabilizes the video signal ... ensuring optimal video quality for your DVD copies..." Never a mention that it removes encoding designed to protect the video.

I'm surprised the MPAA citing DMCA isn't all over this. I knew you could buy plans and build your own but I didn't know it was legal to sell fully assembled units.

Regarding the VOB, I'm speaking only about RF or composite video. Once it's an analog video signal, I don't think it matters whether it started out VOB, MPEG2, MPEG4 or Windows Media. The only thing possible is to fiddle with the output gain to foil the recording.


aaronfitz
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join:2004-03-06
Cedar Rapids, IA

reply to rradina
said by rradina See Profile :

I believe they use "off screen" video scan lines to overwhelm the automatic gain governing circuits on recorders. Although your TV's presentation of the signal is unaffected, a recording ends up with wide swings in brightness which makes it too irritating to watch.
Whoa, that's what Macrovision does? I've had a couple DVD players that did this while hooked up through a VCR to a TV that only had a coax input. The guy at Radioshack made up something about reduced power output of the new DVD players. I now hate Macrovision.
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