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moonpuppy

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Re: Charging for spam splits legit vs illegit spam

So why pay for a message that can still be blocked by the user? As a spammer, I would only pay for those that can be delivered.

As for the Goodmail certified mail, that idea has floated around for years. Those unsubscribe links are nothing but confirmation that the address is good enough to keep spamming.

Spammers don't follow the rules now. Think they will follow them later?


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said by moonpuppy See Profile :

So why pay for a message that can still be blocked by the user? As a spammer, I would only pay for those that can be delivered.

As for the Goodmail certified mail, that idea has floated around for years. Those unsubscribe links are nothing but confirmation that the address is good enough to keep spamming.

Spammers don't follow the rules now. Think they will follow them later?
But legit advertisers, who are PAYING to send you mail, will honor unsubscribe requests.
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Do you SERIOUSLY think "illegitimate" spammers wont pay for guaranteed access? Get real. They will just pass on the cost to those that hired them. Maybe when it gets too expensive, companies will stop hiring them to spam.


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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by moonpuppy See Profile :

So why pay for a message that can still be blocked by the user? As a spammer, I would only pay for those that can be delivered.

As for the Goodmail certified mail, that idea has floated around for years. Those unsubscribe links are nothing but confirmation that the address is good enough to keep spamming.

Spammers don't follow the rules now. Think they will follow them later?
But legit advertisers, who are PAYING to send you mail, will honor unsubscribe requests.
Problem is there are plenty of legit advertisers who use shaddy third parties/spammers to do their advertising. Don't believe me? Fill out a request for a lower m*0*r*7*g*A*g*e rate and see how many Fortune 500 Companies call you within the next 24 hours.

Myself, I use Yahoo and I don't pay for it so I have no right to gripe about them using this method. But if I'm an AOL user paying $23.95 a month then yes, I'd be totally against it.

moonpuppy

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said by GTaylor See Profile :

Problem is there are plenty of legit advertisers who use shaddy third parties/spammers to do their advertising. Don't believe me? Fill out a request for a lower m*0*r*7*g*A*g*e rate and see how many Fortune 500 Companies call you within the next 24 hours.
DING DING DING !!!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!

They were discussing this last night on the NBC Nightly News. The "plausible deniability" angle is what these companies are doing now.

Now, if I could only find that website where some guy hacked a spammers system and grabbed all these photos of her ugly self and found her using email lists and hacking AOL accounts.
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