dailyphreak
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1 edit | [Vonage] Vonage Opening It's SIP Credentials?
Have you guys heard the rumors that Vonage may be opening its SIP credentials to allow users to bring their own devices to the Vonage network? TMCnet had a story about it earlier this week: »blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating···ials.asp
It'd be a great move, now that they're going public. They're going to need all the subscribers they can get! It'd be good if people could finally use it with Asterisk too. |
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mazilo
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dailyphreak
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Beverly Hills, CA | reply to dailyphreak
Ahhh I checked and tried to find one before posting this, but couldn't. I must of missed it. |
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ptrowski
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clubs: | Personally I think that would be a great thing for them to do. It would be a great move for them to do, especially with the impending IPO.
A rate drop wouldn't hurt either.:)
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roamer1
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| said by ptrowski  :Personally I think that would be a great thing for them to do. It would be a great move for them to do, especially with the impending IPO. A rate drop wouldn't hurt either.:) The other thing Vonage needs to do is expand availability -- there are still quite a few places where one can get local numbers with pretty much everybody except Vonage (and BroadVoice, but given their strong ties to a certain regional CLEC, I've never expected much in the way of coverage out of them.)
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glomph
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| If this -actually- comes to pass (I'm skeptical on this) it will be either terrific for the industry, or horrible.
Terrific to have the major player open up, but horrible in that it will probably decimate most of the top-tier open providers (like the ones many of us on this forum use).
For now, I think it's a brilliant move on Vonage's part, should this be true. |
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rizzo2dial
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If this news is true, part of Vonage's thinking may be a result of the PAP2 unlocking fiasco. After all, many Vonage PAP2 customers were (and still are) able to obtain their SIP credentials by unlocking their PAP2s and downloading & decrypting their adapter's provisioning file. 
The next question is whether Vonage will actively support unlocking Vonage branded VoIP adapters for former customers (for a nominal fee of course). IMO Vonage has lost out on tremendous revenue opportunities by not offering to unlocking adapters. Had they been willing to do so for say $15 - $25, the WAFRO PAP2 unlock method may never have been discovered. WAFRO would have had much less incentive to come up w/ the unlock trick had he been able to pay Vonage a reasonable amount to unlock his PAP2.
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| Rizzo2dial, I would not be surprised at all if the efforts to unlock the PAP2 had a play in this if it comes to pass. I would imagine that they hopefully see the additional $$$ that can be generated.
This could help the technically challenged. 
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mikesm559
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Redwood City, CA | reply to dailyphreak
If I unlocked my Vonage PAP2 and decoded the Vonage SIP credentials, would it be possible for me to use these credentials to configure Asterisk to use interoperate with Vonage SIP service?
Thanks,
Mike |
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mazilo
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I reckon you should be. |
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mikesm559
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Redwood City, CA | Inetresting. Do I just use the decrypted key as the secret in the SIP config?
Thanks,
Mike |
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rizzo2dial
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join:2004-08-05 | No, you use the SIP credentials listed inside the decrypted config file. To decrypt the config file, you need the decryption passphrase (it is NOT a key). |
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mikesm559
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Redwood City, CA | Ok, of course that makes sense. I'll try it!
Has this been done before by others? Can Vonage somehow detect it's a "foreign entity" talk to it via SIP?
Thanks,
Mike |
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gatzdon
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said by mikesm559 :If I unlocked my Vonage PAP2 and decoded the Vonage SIP credentials, would it be possible for me to use these credentials to configure Asterisk to use interoperate with Vonage SIP service? Thanks, Mike If you do this, don't be surprise if Vonage closes your account as "Voluntarily Terminated". Vonage's servers aren't blind to what is connected to them.
I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying to make sure you are prepare if Vonage decides to cut you loose.
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mikesm559
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Redwood City, CA | I was wondering about this. Of course if they decide to open up credentials, then it's not an issue.
Have people done this already, has Vonage shut them down because of it?
Thanks,
mike |
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gatzdon
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| I have read a few posts over in FW about Vonage booting people, but nothing is confirmed.
Personally, Vonage managed to get a good product to work out of the box. I think they should leave that as is as there are too many people who don't know what they are doing.
Now I am all for Vonage opening up the credentials upon "Request". That would be awesome and they wouldn't have to deal with those who "Poke" around for curiosity's sake.
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phoneboy2
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I think it's largely a support issue. They are just worried about all the support headaches this would cause. You have to draw the line somewhere. If someone phones in because their asterisk server is not working, Vonage can't be expected to deal with that. It will always end up being a fight with the customer over whether it's Asterisk or Vonage.
I have not heard of anyone connecting an Asterisk server to Vonage without subscribing to a softphone account. I don't think it is possible any other way. |
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roamer1
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said by mikesm559 :Can Vonage somehow detect it's a "foreign entity" talk to it via SIP? There's no reason to think they can't. ("user-agent" and all that)
-SC
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