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RayW
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Re: Stupid ISPs Screwed Themselves

said by FightingBlue :

Pretty simple, really. Republican policies are more favorable to the wealthier management types, so that's where their money goes. Democratic policies are more beneficial to the middle-class and "clean industry" like the tech sector, so that's where the rank-and-file donations go. The donations are a lot smaller than the managers', but there's a lot more average employees.
I work in the tech sector (electronics engineer in the test software field) and I do not see the dems as being conducive to my remaining gainfully employed. Microsoft being a 'big' business you would think would go repub, but since it is run by lawyers, I guess it makes sense that they pay into the dems more.
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Pretty simple, really. Republican policies are more favorable to the wealthier management types, so that's where their money goes. Democratic policies are more beneficial to the middle-class and "clean industry" like the tech sector, so that's where the rank-and-file donations go. The donations are a lot smaller than the managers', but there's a lot more average employees.


pnh102
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And what lesson is that? That you can get away with it?
They got away with it after they bribed the correct people. But the legacy of this action is now that the government can take a direct interest in what operating system you use on your computer. If Apple gets too popular too fast (again), watch out!
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RayW
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Yes, Microsoft got too big too fast and missed some of the learning stages. I find it interesting that even though Clinton started it and Bush let them off, the Democrats get more money from Microsoft Corp, but the Republicans get more from the individual Microsoft management types. Never have been able to figure that out (although I have guesses).
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nixen
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said by RayW See Profile :

Clinton sued M$ because Bill did not pay his share of the graft (and gave Bill many chances to get it right). Bill paid graft to the dems and repubs, Bush dropped the suit.

Moral: if you want to screw the people, pay the big political parties off and you can do what ever you want.
Given that the Telcos and other parties interested in tiering already "lobby" heavily, I'd say they already know this lesson well. MicroSoft's problem was, they were too new and didn't yet know this lesson. Now they do.

-tom
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RayW
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Clinton sued M$ because Bill did not pay his share of the graft (and gave Bill many chances to get it right). Bill paid graft to the dems and repubs, Bush dropped the suit.

Moral: if you want to screw the people, pay the big political parties off and you can do what ever you want.
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nixen
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said by pnh102 See Profile :

You would think SBC, Verizon, BS and any other ISP who is considering the idea of charging content providers for access to their customers would have learned from Microsoft's experience with DOJ during the 1990s. You really don't want to do stupid things that get the government under your skin.
And what lesson is that? That you can get away with it?

-tom
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pnh102
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You would think SBC, Verizon, BS and any other ISP who is considering the idea of charging content providers for access to their customers would have learned from Microsoft's experience with DOJ during the 1990s. You really don't want to do stupid things that get the government under your skin.

Any "remedy" the government provides now will not only screw over ISPs in ways they can't even begin to imagine, but they might also harm everyone else in the process.
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