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johnh123

join:2002-11-19
Chicago, IL
reply to TelecomJunky
Re: No details on houses passed; costs; hookups; etc

What is available in the community now? Cable internet? DSL?

kellenw

join:2003-11-20
Kansas City, MO

reply to TKJunkMail
This is a pretty small area (NKC). I go through it everyday on my commute from Gladstone area to Downtown KC. It doesn't take a ton to light up the whole city. They have TONS of Casino tax money coming in to support and expand it.

Also, this is NOT just intended for data. They are planning voice and tv over this also.

My company is seriously considering moving operations to NKC due to this improvement. Also, less traffic, lower rent and better utilities.

This will draw a LOT of businesses to this area. It's a great move for the city.


TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO

reply to dvd536
Nope, those have not been hammered out. The rates I quoted are also those proposed by the city and are not yet official. Though I suspect they will come in right around those or possibly less.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

reply to TelecomJunky
said by TelecomJunky See Profile :

5 MBPS - $64.95
10 - 84.95
30 - 194.95
100 - 575.95
Blocked ports?, restrictive TOS's? bandwidth caps? traffic shaping?
got any info on any of those?
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO

reply to scrummie02
Keep in mind to that NKC is in a small area across the river from KC and surrounded by KC on all sides. This left NKC in a small under served pocket. It took longer for SBC to bring DSL there because of the need for a remote terminal. You still can't get SDSL in NKC. And Time Warner on recently made a deployment effort to businesses in NKC as part of their PR during the lawsuit days.

If NKC wanted to meet the needs of new businesses, they had to do something.
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO

reply to TKJunkMail
Being in the community, I can assure you it is very small. North Kansas City is primarily a Business community with very few residence. Most of the residences are apartment complexes and small homes that sit in the heart of the city. NKC is a great little community, but come 5:00 pm it's pretty much a ghost town.
However, you wanted prices, here they are:

5 MBPS - $64.95
10 - 84.95
30 - 194.95
100 - 575.95

Keep in mind these are symmetric connections, meaning you get 5 mbps upload!

The fiber project's goal is to attract new businesses to the community. With these kinds of speeds and prices, it will do just that. Because of the small size of the residential community in NKC, p2p will be of little issue.
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scrummie02
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join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA

reply to TKJunkMail
still, at 45 mbs, it's probably better than what the commercial folks are offering. I applaud them for North KC for this. Using the tax money for something worthwhile. Even with the log wait for deployment, I don't see any difference between that and people live in Philadelphia not getting broadband access because Verizon won't go there. Besides, private companies are motivated by profits and less likely to deploy broadband in places where they won't make money. The city Government isn't out to turn profit...


TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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Basically all the press release discusses is that a company was hired to manage the network. That the city has a dual-ring fiber net around the city and that they plan a rollout to businesses and homes in Spring, 2006.

Nothing about how many houses or businesses are passed or how many are hooked up or how much fiber is run down streets to homes. Also no info about costs to have service, etc.

It could be awhile before many users are online except for the core business district.

I did find this info in the RFP issued Dec,2005.
»www.homespro.com/documents/docs/···City.pdf

The proposed FTTS network project has the following characteristics and shall make use of
assumptions in the planning and cost of the FTTS project.

• Estimated 1,400 total residential homes will be passed in NKC.
• Estimated 950 total businesses will be passed in NKC.
• Estimated 23 miles of underground plant.
• Estimated 2 commercial users with redundant fiber optic connections.

Provide a minimum initial bandwidth of 45 Mbps on or before April 1, 2006. Bandwidth of at least 250 Mbps is required by June 1, 2006.(That is total bandwidth for the whole footprint, NOT TO EACH HOUSE)
The city has 2800 housing units. Fiber is planned for only 1400 of them (and 800 of the 1400 are in a new housing development. Greenfields redlining anyone??)

The press release talks about gigabit to the home, but the plans are for purchase of intenet bandwidth much less than that starting at a single DS3(45 mbps). I hope there aren't many P2P users - they'll eat that DS3 quickly.
Links supplying facts: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Kans···Missouri
»www.nkc.org/
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