Anon |  Built Xp firewall is enough to protect my pc ?
Built Xp firewall is enough to protect my pc against to some hacker? |
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Skipdawg
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JTM1051
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said by paesung:
Built Xp firewall is enough to protect my pc against to some hacker?
In addition to Skipdawg's comment.
Personally, given all the past/current M$ OS and program security problems I wouldn't have much faith in a firewall from M$, especially if it's part of the OS. |
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SongBear88
join:2001-03-05
USA | reply to Anon
It wouldn't have a chance against an experienced hacker. |
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Mankind121
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do a security test brah, if it gives bad results get ZA |
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SongBear88
join:2001-03-05
USA | It barely keeps anything out. Zonealarm is the best free software firewall ever made. |
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gameboyrom
join:2000-11-27
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said by JTM1051:
Personally, given all the past/current M$ OS and program security problems I wouldn't have much faith in a firewall from M$, especially if it's part of the OS.
The core of the OS is great, just the shell sucks. Also to not sway this off topic, I'd run a program with the built in firewall, or if you could just run a firewall with out the built in one (to save some resources).
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SongBear88
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There are no resources just ram in nt, 2000, and xp. |
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hockeyfun1$
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New Hartford, NY | reply to Anon
Re: Built Xp firewall is enough to protect my pc ?
It will help, but you should also use ZA or whatever.
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Mentat
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said by SongBear:
It wouldn't stand a chance against an expierienced hacker
Well, not too many things would. The answer to the man's original question was whether the built in XP "firewall" would be enough. I will have to lean to the no side of an answer, just because it IS microsoft. Mess around with Tiny or ZA, see what happens. Run a security scan here at DSLR or go to »www.grc.com and run Steve's leaktest and portscanner...BTW we have that here also.
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Wildcatboy
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I haven't had a chance or desire to play around with XP and its firewall yet but my understanding is (and I may be wrong ) that XP's firewall only takes care of inbound attempts. It does not protect you from outbound leaks and if that's the case, in my opinion it's not a complete or effective solution. |
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BlitzenZeus
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| I can't provide a shot of the ICMP options for ICF as I completely disabled its service, however they are very few.
Here's a shot where you configure what you allow... Pathedic isn't it?
Conclusion: Get a REAL firewall, ICF doesn't even have the configurability of any decent routers.
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damonlab
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I am sad for all of the new xp users (the ones that buy a preloaded xp from a store). They think they have a good firewall. Here is a good idea for all of the stores that sell computers: place a link to dslr security forum on every desktop.
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phoenix911
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UK | reply to Wildcatboy
You're quite correct. It has no outbound protection whatsoever.
MS = OS Security. I don't think so  |
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BlitzenZeus
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4 Inbound ICMP types
4 Outbound ICMP types
So it allows the rest to flow through like YOU HAVE NO FIREWALL AT ALL
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Wildcatboy
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The TCP/IP filtering option that you posted is an existing option coming from NT and later on W2K. I'm not sure if it's related to the new XP firewall. If that's the firewall they are talking about then NT has a firewall too. I doubt that this would be the only feature. In fact in NT you can do it separately for each adapter. |
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BlitzenZeus
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| There is more, however I don't remember which services are required for ICF to work so I can't post a screenshot. It had options like 'Block inbound packets your not listening for', but that would still allow problem since these NT systems listen on ports like 5000, 135, and many many more!
If someone could post a screen shot of the ICF options that would be useful
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limeygit
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Those who bash it and say 'get Tiny', erm it is Tiny. MS licensed the engine and took out the outbound part.
It is perfectly adequate in dealing with incoming, not perfect but adequate. It gets the same results as Tiny from Shields Up and is certainly better than nothing.
I run the 'real' Tiny because of the outbound protection.
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m2pmd70
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Mountain Home, AR | reply to BlitzenZeus
Here ya go...
»m2pmd70.tripod.com/misc/icf.html
Hopefully that works, tripod sucks.  |
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