djrobx
join:2000-05-31
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Re: Propoganda.. by both sides
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If Verizon wants to provide FIOS in my town, then it does it for ALL citizens, not just the 'rich people'.
I have seen no real evidence that Verizon is targeting rich people. In Los Angeles we have "rich areas" such as Ranchos Palos Verdes and Rolling Hills Estates. They are Verizon territory. If Verizon was targeting rich people only, those folks would have been the first to see FIOS. But there's no FIOS there. And heck, it would actually make sense for them to roll out FIOS there since most customers in those areas can't even get DSL. Meanwhile areas like Ontario and Victorville are getting lit for FIOS. They're certainly not "rich" communities.
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DaveNJ
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join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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| said by djrobx  : quote:
If Verizon wants to provide FIOS in my town, then it does it for ALL citizens, not just the 'rich people'.
I have seen no real evidence that Verizon is targeting rich people. In Los Angeles we have "rich areas" such as Ranchos Palos Verdes and Rolling Hills Estates. They are Verizon territory. If Verizon was targeting rich people only, those folks would have been the first to see FIOS. But there's no FIOS there. And heck, it would actually make sense for them to roll out FIOS there since most customers in those areas can't even get DSL. Meanwhile areas like Ontario and Victorville are getting lit for FIOS. They're certainly not "rich" communities. The problem is that verizon wants special treatment, and just wants to bully towns around. Either wire the whole town, or none at all. Cablecos have to, so verizon should have to as well. Our former cableco RCN tried to do this, and were legislated out of the state. I think there should also be a builtout performace agreement once verizon is allow in, under a "agreement" from the town. Our cableco had only 2 yrs to rebuild there entire network. I think that is fair for Verizon to have to do in any town. |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
| And why should they be required to wire the whole town right away? Shouldnt we extend this a little further and say they have to wire their entire covered area right away or none at all? Or maybe we can say they have to wire the entire nation, or none at all? What makes it OK for them to wire one state now and not another until next year? Explain to me how this is different then any other company rolling out or even testing a product in one part of the country, state, city, or town. Is it because YOU want it and they are not meeting YOUR timeline?
If they want to go down your street and wire every house but yours, that is their business. What is it that all of a sudden gives you a RIGHT to fiber just because they started rolling it out in your neighborhood? If they want to stop their fiber deployment right now and never wire another house or business, that is their choice to make. They are a publicly held company so that decision is not yours and certainly not some politicians to make based on what they think they should suck out of Verizon.
Sure it would be nice if they could wire every house in their territory in a couple months. But that is not realistic and we would still have the little cry babies here asking why did they start in NY instead of Nebraska? So they pick and choose the most profitable places now and then come back to the places that give little return when the cost of wiring them is lower. So what, good business sense. In the end they will probably, through intervention of the government, be forced to wire the places that don't make them any money. But it may be several years for that to take place. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to DaveNJ
The whole town is already wired for telephone service. Upgrading it is a slow eventuality. Where I used to live there was neither cable tv or cable internet and Charter or the local gov't didn't care. There was DSL and telephone service though. |
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DaveNJ
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| said by bogey780 :The whole town is already wired for telephone service. Upgrading it is a slow eventuality. Where I used to live there was neither cable tv or cable internet and Charter or the local gov't didn't care. There was DSL and telephone service though. What you need to do is petition your town council to form a cable advisory board. Then the cable advisory takes complaints, when the franchise comes up again, they say these points need to be taken care of first. Gee imagine if you could do this with verizon dsl ? |
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