Logan 5
Silver and Black and blue in 2009
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join:2001-05-25
The WasteLAN
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
2 edits |  Everything will eventually kill you
So why not get the benefit the WiFi would give them while the students can...?
Drinking large amouts of Beer/Alcohol will also cause 'health concerns' but you don't see them banning drinking on campus or in the dorms/frathouses....do you.
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Driscollw
join:2003-01-11
Virginia Beach, VA
| Excellent point. If people knew of all the "stuff" around your body they would freak. Cell Phones getting banned?NO, Smoking ? Maybe I'm not sure. Smoking is almost illegal. Put your nextel near speakers and/or monitors while your talking. See what happens. This is just BS. I thought people were smarter at colleges. LOL. Joking around. |
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knightmb
Everybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN
·AT&T DSL Service
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What those parents are missing is that there is NOT a real growing concern about it. No more among scientist than cell phones causing cancer, because they just don't!! It's just another $$$ scam to start selling stuff to "protect" you from the radiation that wifi uses. Not like the massive amount of natural radiation that you get just walking outside is higher than 100 years of radiation from the wifi. There is no health concern, only concern to make money by scamming others. Please people, know that the scientific process is very straight forward. Collect information, make theories, compare with others, decide on what fits best. You can always find a quack to spin the numbers and make it seem like a concern, but for the rest of us it's not nor should it be. Cell phones have been around for 20+ years, why don't we all have cancer now? Wifi has been around for a while too, I don't see any related cases of cancer or other health concerns that can be linked to it.
It's just junk science! |
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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said by Logan 5  :Drinking large amouts ofBeer/Alcohol will also cause 'health concerns' but you don't see them banning drinking on campus or in the dorms/frathouses....do you. In fact, a lot of campuses are doing just that. |
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Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| said by Cheese :said by Logan 5 :Drinking large amouts ofBeer/Alcohol will also cause 'health concerns' but you don't see them banning drinking on campus or in the dorms/frathouses....do you. In fact, a lot of campuses are doing just that. Good luck. In most dorms, the residents freshmen/sophmore and are under 21, so alcohol there is already illegal. To further it up, and say that alcohol is banned at all student housing has absolutely no teeth. Good luck trying to criminalize alcohol possession on the apartment scene.
Unless the college is willing to do a door-to-door inspection for alcohol, I doubt it'll go anywhere. |
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | reply to Cheese
they do do dorm door-to-door inspection. its announced in advanced though, so anyone with half a brain hides the booze away. does not happen often though. |
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AnonymousPerson
@optonline.net | reply to Driscollw
What gets me is that they cite that is has not been around a long time when the fact is that we have been broadcasting analog TV and radio for decades on similar frequencies, and those have not done a thing. |
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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said by Thaler :said by Cheese :said by Logan 5 :Drinking large amouts ofBeer/Alcohol will also cause 'health concerns' but you don't see them banning drinking on campus or in the dorms/frathouses....do you. In fact, a lot of campuses are doing just that. Good luck. In most dorms, the residents freshmen/sophmore and are under 21, so alcohol there is already illegal. To further it up, and say that alcohol is banned at all student housing has absolutely no teeth. Good luck trying to criminalize alcohol possession on the apartment scene. Unless the college is willing to do a door-to-door inspection for alcohol, I doubt it'll go anywhere. It's the school, they set the policy, not the students, if they say alcohol is banned, it's banned, if caught with it, they will be penalized. Not to much to it. Also, I never said ALL schools. In fact, it was just in the news recently that some parents found their underage kids in pictures, at school, with alcohol in their hands on a website, myspace if I remember right. With this, this might start changing policies at a lot of schools. I don't know, AFAIC, if they drink, that's their option, just don't drink and drive. That's all I ask. |
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Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| said by Cheese :It's the school, they set the policy, not the students, if they say alcohol is banned, it's banned, if caught with it, they will be penalized. I'm just saying a policy like that has no teeth.
A.) Nobody brings drinks to campus. Class might be boring, but not that boring.
B.) It already "criminalizes" the act of 21 having alcohol. If caught by police, it will be handled; a school "ban" is just icing ontop of the act.
As per the school imposing will upon student housing, I was coming from my college experience in UCSB. Some colleges come close to "owning" the surrounding town, and some like UCLA, literally do own the land(s) surrounding them. If they would actively like to pursue underage drinking, based upon their will, then to that I say "good luck". Unless explicitly stated otherwise on your apartment rentals, I don't see how the campus will be able to see within campus appartments - where the majority of the banned drinking would take place.
A college ban on underage drinking is similar to a ban on guns. Those caught using/doing the illegal actions were already breaking the law - another one to break does no better. |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| reply to AnonymousPerson
said by AnonymousPerson :
What gets me is that they cite that is has not been around a long time when the fact is that we have been broadcasting analog TV and radio for decades on similar frequencies, and those have not done a thing.
I'm not saying I agree with them, but there's a distance factor that comes into play. It's not the being exposed to RF radiation that's the issue, it's the amount of energy that rf imparts which, in this case, is a function of the power of and the distance from the antenna.
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
 ·Optimum Online
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said by AnonymousPerson :
we have been broadcasting analog TV and radio for decades on similar frequencies Not quite. Television tops out at around 800MHz (channel 69) on the UHF band and soon that will be be scaled back to below 700MHz when we go all digital. WiFi runs in the unlicensed 2400MHz band and uses the same frequencies as microwave ovens though at much lower power. You are basically dealing with extremely low power from WiFi stations. Of course all of this harkens back to when cell towers were first being sited and everyone was running around screaming they were going to glow in the dark. For matter of reference, cellular PCS (T-Mobile, Cingular) runs at 1900MHz.
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King P
Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul
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join:2004-11-17
Inman, SC | reply to 53059959
not to get off topic, but I remember hearing of a guy whos dorm was do do'd by some other kids. They lit a paper bag on fire, and set it in front of his door...hahahaha...wow good ol' college. |
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Frydays
join:2005-10-21
USA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Combat Chuck
said by Combat Chuck :said by AnonymousPerson :
What gets me is that they cite that is has not been around a long time when the fact is that we have been broadcasting analog TV and radio for decades on similar frequencies, and those have not done a thing.
I'm not saying I agree with them, but there's a distance factor that comes into play. It's not the being exposed to RF radiation that's the issue, it's the amount of energy that rf imparts which, in this case, is a function of the power of and the distance from the antenna. this means people using 3rd party firmaware to get more power from the wireless routers are more then likely to get brain cancer then everyone else right ? |
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danawhitaker
Space...The Final Frontier
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join:2002-03-02
Urbandale, IA
·MSN
·Mediacom
| reply to Thaler
"A.) Nobody brings drinks to campus. Class might be boring, but not that boring."
Plenty of people drink on campus. Not *usually* in class, but don't be naive. There are plenty of dorm parties that have alcohol present, despite the university maintining the image of a dry campus. There are also school-sponsored on-campus events which will attract alcohol. It got so out-of-hand at my college one year they considered cancelling the event and eventually just prohibited people from bringing anything of their own to drink, and all kinds of other stupid restrictions that sucked the life out of everything.
That being said, enforcement was minimal for on campus parties, or Greek parties (even though all frats and sororities were supposed to be dry). I imagine that if they pursued enforcement too heavily it would probably end up harming the college financially.
Back to the topic at hand, though, the banning of wifi...well, they just shot themselves in the foot. If I were a prospective student, or the parent of a prospective student, I'd be steering my sights toward a college with a less myopic, paranoid person at the helm. Decisions like this give an indication, at least to me, of the kind of system-wide thinking that goes on, and it's not the kind of environment I'd want to live in, nor have my child at.
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Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| said by danawhitaker :Plenty of people drink on campus. Not *usually* in class, but don't be naive. There are plenty of dorm parties that have alcohol present, despite the university maintining the image of a dry campus. I dunno. All the social events ever worth meantioning at our schools (and which featured drinks) were never actually conducted on campus. Having a wild kegger at the student apartments just near campus is not the same as alcohol on campus - which is what we were talking about. Maybe sports gatherings might be different, but that caters to a crowd of various audiences, not soley the students.
It is not the college's legal responsibility about what happens off campus. Sure, they have a vested interest in what occurs, but they are in no position to demand off-campus locations follow campus rules. |
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herb77
join:2005-02-23
Fort Myers, FL | reply to Logan 5
God I hope I don't die because I have a Wifi Linksys Router in my bedroom. |
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herb77
join:2005-02-23
Fort Myers, FL
| reply to AnonymousPerson
said by AnonymousPerson :
What gets me is that they cite that is has not been around a long time when the fact is that we have been broadcasting analog TV and radio for decades on similar frequencies, and those have not done a thing.
Cancer rates are on the rise. |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | reply to AnonymousPerson
How many people put a tv/radio transmitter 4 inches from their gonads? Yeah it's only 100mW or so but still there's no evidence to show it's not harmful. And no evidence to say it is harmful either but this guy wants to stay safe. |
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icecold976
join:2002-07-20
Orlando, FL
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to herb77
So is the living age of humans. I think we are getting close to saying that man will live for what 78 years now for the US. It goes to reason that the reason cancer is on the rise is that people are living so much longer now a days, that it gives cancer much great chance of growing.
Shoot at 1900, the American Life expectency was what, 45 years old.
Considering we know that there is a much greater risk of cancer the older you get, its just common sense with the life Expectency rising so fast, that we would see more cancer. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| reply to Thaler
Hey guys,
This place is not in the USA. The USA is the only country, among those where alcohol is legal, where the age is as high as 21 (thanks to the MADD neo-prohibitionists and politicians who decided it was easier to attack younger people who don't vote much, rather than just getting tougher on drunk drivers).
It legal in Canada for most college students to drink. |
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