phattieg
join:2001-04-29
Winter Park, FL
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Re: Everything will eventually kill you
Well guys, THIS IS STUPID. We have been using 2.4 Ghz cordless phones for how long now??? I bet the person who filed the lawsuit has one. I bet the guy/president of this college has one too. If I'm not mistaken, they have a little more power than many WiFi spots anyway. Either way, they still sit next to your brain when in use and broadcasting. This is just all crap. I bet the college has some kind of budget for it's repair on said network, and removing all the need for ethernet will save them money, but without the budget for repair being so high, they lose money they could pocket or use elsewhere if theres money left. |
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Wildman4416
join:2006-02-10
Fort Wayne, IN
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Let's bring people up to speed on this. The operating frequency of Wi-fi is the same as your microwave oven. Hmm would you stick your head into a microwave?? Granted the frequency is the same but the power it transmitts is much lower, so the immediate impact on humans is not so easily known. If you want to talk frequencies, then lest look to the cordless phones they operate on the same frequencies and those much higher, (2.4 GHz, and 5.8 GHz) maybe they should ban all equipment that operates in the microwave frequency range. |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
Premium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| reply to Frydays
said by Frydays  :this means people using 3rd party firmaware to get more power from the wireless routers are more then likely to get brain cancer then everyone else right ? Probably, but the number is going to be statistically insignificant. People that aren't sleeping on their routers aren't going to get cancer from them.
My main concern is that there seem to be a lot of people posting that don't understand that there is a big difference between a 1 watt transmitter 1 inch away and a 1 watt transmitter a foot away.
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phunkysmell
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How many people put a tv/radio transmitter 4 inches from their gonads?
Millions. That cell phone in your pocket 4" from your gonads transmits 850/900/1800/1900Mhz at 1 watt when active (old analog cell phones went up to 3 watts), 0.2-0.5 watts when idle. Wi-fi typically transmits at only 0.030-0.100 watts (30-100 milliwatts) when in an active data transmission. If you're going to "feel the effects" of wi-fi in 50 years, you're going to feel the effects of cell phones yesterday.
How many college students have cell phones? Lots. How many have wi-fi that they will use ANYWAY? Lots. How pointless is any ban or lawsuit against wi-fi? Lots. |
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icecold976
join:2002-07-20
Orlando, FL
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So is the living age of humans. I think we are getting close to saying that man will live for what 78 years now for the US. It goes to reason that the reason cancer is on the rise is that people are living so much longer now a days, that it gives cancer much great chance of growing.
Shoot at 1900, the American Life expectency was what, 45 years old.
Considering we know that there is a much greater risk of cancer the older you get, its just common sense with the life Expectency rising so fast, that we would see more cancer. |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | reply to AnonymousPerson
How many people put a tv/radio transmitter 4 inches from their gonads? Yeah it's only 100mW or so but still there's no evidence to show it's not harmful. And no evidence to say it is harmful either but this guy wants to stay safe. |
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herb77
join:2005-02-23
Fort Myers, FL
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said by AnonymousPerson :
What gets me is that they cite that is has not been around a long time when the fact is that we have been broadcasting analog TV and radio for decades on similar frequencies, and those have not done a thing.
Cancer rates are on the rise. |
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Frydays
join:2005-10-21
USA
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said by Combat Chuck :said by AnonymousPerson :
What gets me is that they cite that is has not been around a long time when the fact is that we have been broadcasting analog TV and radio for decades on similar frequencies, and those have not done a thing.
I'm not saying I agree with them, but there's a distance factor that comes into play. It's not the being exposed to RF radiation that's the issue, it's the amount of energy that rf imparts which, in this case, is a function of the power of and the distance from the antenna. this means people using 3rd party firmaware to get more power from the wireless routers are more then likely to get brain cancer then everyone else right ? |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
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said by AnonymousPerson :
we have been broadcasting analog TV and radio for decades on similar frequencies Not quite. Television tops out at around 800MHz (channel 69) on the UHF band and soon that will be be scaled back to below 700MHz when we go all digital. WiFi runs in the unlicensed 2400MHz band and uses the same frequencies as microwave ovens though at much lower power. You are basically dealing with extremely low power from WiFi stations. Of course all of this harkens back to when cell towers were first being sited and everyone was running around screaming they were going to glow in the dark. For matter of reference, cellular PCS (T-Mobile, Cingular) runs at 1900MHz.
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
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said by AnonymousPerson :
What gets me is that they cite that is has not been around a long time when the fact is that we have been broadcasting analog TV and radio for decades on similar frequencies, and those have not done a thing.
I'm not saying I agree with them, but there's a distance factor that comes into play. It's not the being exposed to RF radiation that's the issue, it's the amount of energy that rf imparts which, in this case, is a function of the power of and the distance from the antenna.
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AnonymousPerson
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What gets me is that they cite that is has not been around a long time when the fact is that we have been broadcasting analog TV and radio for decades on similar frequencies, and those have not done a thing. |
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Driscollw
join:2003-01-11
Virginia Beach, VA
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Excellent point. If people knew of all the "stuff" around your body they would freak. Cell Phones getting banned?NO, Smoking ? Maybe I'm not sure. Smoking is almost illegal. Put your nextel near speakers and/or monitors while your talking. See what happens. This is just BS. I thought people were smarter at colleges. LOL. Joking around. |
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