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binary_boy

join:2001-07-09
Windsor, CO

"monthly bandwidth limits"!?!?

I've just moved and I've come to Comcast from Charter. When I tried to connect to the Comcast nntp server today (which seems lightning fast) I got a "user has exceeded monthly bandwidth limits" message and it wouldn't let me connect.

I had no such limits with Charter. This is not going to do at all. Is anyone familiar with these limits? Can you get unlimited service?

:(

Michael972

join:2006-02-11
Irving, TX
I have never heard of this in 5 years with them. I'v heard of them calling people to curtail their usage


dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18
reply to binary_boy
Comcast gives you 2GB per month through Giganews.
You can signup with whatever Newsgroup you want, but you get to pay for it.
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GilbertMark
Premium
join:2001-05-02
Gilbert, AZ
Reviews:
·CenturyLink
·Cox HSI

1 recommendation

reply to binary_boy
Why don't you just creat a second email account with Comcast from their website, make that account the primary account and then you will get a fresh 2GB of bandwidth. It works.
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jjsk8r85

join:2005-02-17
Belleville, MI
reply to binary_boy
why not just subscribe to a real nntp service....

use_ssh
Premium
join:2005-11-16
Reston, VA
reply to binary_boy
The only way to get unlimited service is to subscribe to a 3rd party like Giganews or similar NNTP vendor.

U_S


b1gdr3
I Blame Your Mother

join:2001-07-28
York, PA
reply to GilbertMark
said by GilbertMark:

Why don't you just creat a second email account with Comcast from their website, make that account the primary account and then you will get a fresh 2GB of bandwidth. It works.
Too bad they haven't closed that loophole yet. I've sent messages to both Comcast Abuse and Giganews Abuse with no response...guess it's time to resend them.
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I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.


jbob
Reach Out and Touch Someone
Premium
join:2004-04-26
Little Rock, AR

1 edit

1 recommendation

And why would you want them to "close this loophole?" Matter of fact this so called "loophole" was first mentioned from a CSR/TSR from Comcast suggesting to a subscriber how to do it.

rhexis

join:2002-05-18
Gilbertsville, PA

1 recommendation

reply to b1gdr3
that no response thing should have clued you in. perhaps mind your own business next time?


ComCastIUser

@comcast.net
Actually - Comcast only allows NNTP access on the primary account. You wil get an Access denied using any other created account. it has been that way since at least Dec 05.


CatScratch
Premium
join:2003-09-10
West Jordan, UT

1 edit


KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to binary_boy
Actually, what he says is correct.

If the primary email account has used its 2GB limit, then entering another Comcast email account/password as the new login in your newsreader will not register.

You would have to set this new email account to be the primary one.

(ok, I think we've covered this subject enough on this forum )


b1gdr3
I Blame Your Mother

join:2001-07-28
York, PA
reply to rhexis
said by rhexis:

that no response thing should have clued you in. perhaps mind your own business next time?
Actually, there was a response =)
gotta love the option to contact Comcast Executive branch with your concerns =)
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I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.


WowUGo

@208.17.x.x
You actually contacted the executive branch on this?

Can I inquire as to why? Why take the effort on that? I can see if your getting bad service, but why something that doesn't affect you?


b1gdr3
I Blame Your Mother

join:2001-07-28
York, PA

1 recommendation

said by WowUGo :

You actually contacted the executive branch on this?

Can I inquire as to why? Why take the effort on that? I can see if your getting bad service, but why something that doesn't affect you?
It affects all of us. When you violate the terms of service and abuse the services provided and bandwidth provided, it affects all the users of the service.
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MrChupacabra
Premium
join:2003-03-26
Florida
said by b1gdr3:

It affects all of us. When you violate the terms of service and abuse the services provided and bandwidth provided, it affects all the users of the service.
I gotta agree with b1gdr3 on this one. I personally do not like the limits on news groups but it is there for a reason. Circumventing it this was very creative, however this could impact other users causing them to get poor service and impacts the bottom line in two different ways.

Once Comcast figures out how to regulate it by account number instead of email address this will come to a quick stop.
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KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
Reviews:
·Comcast

1 edit
reply to binary_boy
I believe these complaints are falling on deaf ears.

Most Comcast customers are not DSLR members and do not know (or probably care) about this Newsgroup issue.

Heck, I doubt if even half of Comcast customers use newsgroups.

Comcast has so many billions, I doubt this newsgroup "extra usage" is going to break their bank.

acrufox

join:2004-07-14
Canada

3 edits
Comcast puts those limits in place not just for downloading illegal material but imagine just imagine if all those Comcast users found out NNTP=Easy access to Porn.

Now saying this from an adults perspective, after all I'm almost 30 LOL. If you planted the seed of limitless porn sorted into groups by content, you would have even the most clueless of Comcast users downloading gigs and gigs of nothing but porn. They put the limits on so they can quash the idea of downloading porn with no effort. I've seen enough computers over the years to realize many...many, especially men who use the computer the most, download porn or subscribe to it like no tomorrow.

Trust me most Comcast customers would know what newsgroups were if they were told they could download as much as they wanted of porn. Just over a year ago I was actually asked by a Comcast customer where the best place to get porn for free without using P2P/torrents. I said the newsgroups, he gave me that blank stare of "whaaa" After I explained he wanted to know how. I told him to google it and sent him on his way LOL Soon after he came back saying the service was great but he said after a couple days he couldn't download anymore. I told him he reached the limit for the month.

Next thing I knew he was asking me how he could get unlimited. I told him about paying giganews $25/mo to get all he wanted or switch to Verizon which at times was slow but had no limits. At the time the choice between Comcast+Giganews at $85 a month. Or lose some download speed and not pay for newsgroups at 3.0 speeds at $35 a month. You can guess which one he chose LOL

Have to be honest on issues like this, everyone goes around acting normal and porn on newsgroups? Yes there are people that would go to great lengths to get it. Porn makes the world go round LOL

As for reporting to Comcast the workaround, oy you have too much time on your hands :P Comcast's teacher's pet. Saying that it will affect the level of service to other users? That's just downright stupid. I'm on Verizon FiOS, I can subscribe to giganews myself and download all I wanted. Comcast doesn't have their own news server. Stop and think for a moment, telling Comcast serves no purpose to you or anyone else using this workaround. It's giganews, they provide service to anyone, including desperate dialup users.
You tooting the horn doesn't make you look like a savior to users that use giganews. It just puts you in the spotlight as someone looking for attention. Even if every one of Comcast NNTP users used this workaround, they wouldn't need you to report it to them. They would notice it themselves and take care of it.

Then everyone will know who to blame when the workaround no longer works. I have to say it, 2GB on NNTP is lame. Those who do use it know that 2GB just in header downloads on popular newsgroups can eat into a good chunk of that monthly 2GB.


b1gdr3
I Blame Your Mother

join:2001-07-28
York, PA
said by acrufox:

Those who do use it know that 2GB just in header downloads on popular newsgroups can eat into a good chunk of that monthly 2GB.
»www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.j···ps117499

Headers aren't counted against the 2GB cap.
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I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.

MrRuckus

join:2004-01-30
Portland, OR
reply to jjsk8r85
said by jjsk8r85:

why not just subscribe to a real nntp service....
The service I thought was a nice touch by Comcast to actually outsource it to a namebrand nntp provider. Giganews is excellent on retention. A lot better then the old ATTBI nntp server we used to have anyways. The small work around for downloading more then the limit is far better then going back to the ATTBI days of slow through-put & a few days retention even though it was unlimited.

I myself go with a 3rd party provider and dont really mess with the giganews server unless its just checking retention on certain downloads.

I will say though that the reporting of the work around will most likely fall on deaf ears as stated IMO. Unless you use the service and are seeing somekind of impact I dont see the reason for reporting it. But as stated it has been talked about in this forum for quite sometime and if nothing has been done by now, I doubt anything will be. & also as already mentioned, its not like many people even take advantage of the service anyways. Many dont even know it exists (newsgroup service that is).


99664227
Heavily MODerated
Premium
join:2002-11-21
USA
reply to binary_boy
www.newshostings.com

Stop looking for "loop holes" and just pay your $15.00 a month for unlimited account.
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somitho
JNCIE
Premium
join:2004-08-17
Richmond, VA
I use Usenet Server (www.usenetserver.com) am on the 3 month plan, and have no complaints at all on retention/speed. Sign up, stop using loopholes.
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acrufox

join:2004-07-14
Canada
Heavens forbid if anyone used a loophole to download more than 2GB from the newsgroups ::rollseyes:: Wow 2GB, try finding a brand new 2GB hard drive nowadays with a warranty.

In my opinion, Comcast should either offer a half decent account to giganews or not offer the service at all, if one is only using non binaries groups to post and download, there are enough freebies out there to do text only posts.

As for upgrading to unlimited or high limit newsgroup service from a 3rd party, sure you can pay for Giganews unlimited at $25 a month, but just try using it, before you know it, Comcast will be terminating your service for abuse of service.

and yes, we do have users "well good riddance" That's just brainwashing at it's best. The cable provider has successfully brainwashed you into thinking higher usage users affect you, when it fact it's their fault for not willing to spend one cent upgrading their network.

Drove down a secondary road today...found three Comcast boxes with splitters and cables exposed to the weather because the box was either run over or the cover was missing. 0_o


b1gdr3
I Blame Your Mother

join:2001-07-28
York, PA
said by acrufox:

The cable provider has successfully brainwashed you into thinking higher usage users affect you, when it fact it's their fault for not willing to spend one cent upgrading their network.
People that use 600+ gigs a month ARE affecting other users, it's not brainwashing. Cable is a shared technology, so if folks are leeching all day every day, there are users being affected.
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acrufox

join:2004-07-14
Canada
Yeah but nobody has really confirmed that 600GB limit. I was on Comcast HSI and received a letter just under 3 years ago for 100GB a month, back then everyone was "OMG he's doing over 100GB a month, I hardly break 40GB"

Nowadays 100GB is commonplace, even 200 and sometimes 300GB. 600GB is a lot for one user BUT in the other hand. Have a large family, computers are a dime a dozen nowadays. Have 2-3 teenagers downloading off the internet, or have more than streaming music, videos, hey even legit paid for streaming media.

It doesn't take long to add up. Cable is a shared technology yes, but that doesn't mean that the company has to do everything underhandedly.

I could download 600GB on Verizon and they wouldn't care. I just don't like what I see with Comcast nowadays, trying to put a halt or slow down Verizon so they will waste money or give up.

I'm seeing more and more "slowdowns" on this forum in high population areas, this is proof positive that Comcast rather cherry pick off what they label as abusers than investing in expanding their network.


b1gdr3
I Blame Your Mother

join:2001-07-28
York, PA
said by acrufox:

I'm seeing more and more "slowdowns" on this forum in high population areas, this is proof positive that Comcast rather cherry pick off what they label as abusers than investing in expanding their network.
Talking about cherrypicking...how about how VZ cherrypicking where they are going to deploy FIOS? Comcast provides a more than adequate connection and is a good value for the price. If they don't want bandwidth hogs on their network, I'm behind them 10000000%.
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I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.

acrufox

join:2004-07-14
Canada

1 recommendation

VZ cherry picks by choosing the easiest areas to deploy. Our city welcomed Verizon FiOS with open arms and Comcast didn't put up a fight or attempted to slow them down.

Right now they are changing the way they deliver FiOS to the home in terms of them also trying to offer FiOS over coax instead of Cat 5 and test bedding that equipment here.

Some people whined and complained that only rich areas got FiOS first. Well just into the first full year since they started deploying and made their announcements, I had FiOS 6 months in and by no means is our subdivision even remotely considered "rich and poshy" in fact deployment halted just past the intersection down the road where the rich people live and only now they are laying the PVC and marking off the lines on the ground.

People who cannot get FiOS, including those areas that paid big $$$ and got nothing out of it, Verizon will be cherry picking until they can streamline their deployment to be cheap.

I don't like how Comcast handled my issue. I didn't get any RIAA letters, or copy-written material warnings. They couldn't nail me for anything so what do they do? They sent those stupid "you're the top 3% stop it" I got, as I mentioned many times" two letters a week apart for two months abuse. I called in and complained about that and they blamed the "Christmas rush" and they wouldn't do anything about it, even when I told them both letters were post dated a week apart.

Comcast then told me to switch to a business account, and at the time I could afford it, so I was transferred to their business dept. I was promptly told unless I had a legitimate business and was in an area zoned for business they could not sell me a business account and bounced me back to tech support.

So in short, us "abusers" who are willing to shell out more $$$ to Comcast so we can download more, are unable to do so, or have some uninformed Comcast employee tell them to upgrade to "pro" or some other tier that's $20 to $50 more and that invisible limit is still there.

When you are willing to work with the company and the company isn't, then you're not an abuser. You're simply a person Comcast won't make much of a profit off of.

I even asked to be downgraded to 1.5 service so I could download as much as I wanted and they said no.

I wouldn't be behind them 10000000% when "abusers" who download legitimate material like myself cannot even work with them.

DMS1

join:2005-04-06
Plano, TX
said by acrufox:

Right now they are changing the way they deliver FiOS to the home in terms of them also trying to offer FiOS over coax instead of Cat 5 and test bedding that equipment here.
More correctly they are changing the way they deliver FiOS in the home. The fiber still goes to an ONT on the outside of the house as before. However, they are looking at the option of using MoCA over existing coax internally instead of running new Cat 5 in installations where this would make sense.

acrufox

join:2004-07-14
Canada
Just me trying to limit my responses, they tend to get long and drawn out when I go into details about MoCA.


Obliteration
Premium
join:2005-09-18
Somewhere

1 edit
reply to acrufox
said by acrufox:

Comcast puts those limits in place not just for downloading illegal material but imagine just imagine if all those Comcast users found out NNTP=Easy access to Porn.

Now saying this from an adults perspective, after all I'm almost 30 LOL. If you planted the seed of limitless porn sorted into groups by content, you would have even the most clueless of Comcast users downloading gigs and gigs of nothing but porn. They put the limits on so they can quash the idea of downloading porn with no effort. I've seen enough computers over the years to realize many...many, especially men who use the computer the most, download porn or subscribe to it like no tomorrow.

Trust me most Comcast customers would know what newsgroups were if they were told they could download as much as they wanted of porn. Just over a year ago I was actually asked by a Comcast customer where the best place to get porn for free without using P2P/torrents. I said the newsgroups, he gave me that blank stare of "whaaa" After I explained he wanted to know how. I told him to google it and sent him on his way LOL Soon after he came back saying the service was great but he said after a couple days he couldn't download anymore. I told him he reached the limit for the month.

Next thing I knew he was asking me how he could get unlimited. I told him about paying giganews $25/mo to get all he wanted or switch to Verizon which at times was slow but had no limits. At the time the choice between Comcast+Giganews at $85 a month. Or lose some download speed and not pay for newsgroups at 3.0 speeds at $35 a month. You can guess which one he chose LOL

Have to be honest on issues like this, everyone goes around acting normal and porn on newsgroups? Yes there are people that would go to great lengths to get it. Porn makes the world go round LOL

As for reporting to Comcast the workaround, oy you have too much time on your hands :P Comcast's teacher's pet. Saying that it will affect the level of service to other users? That's just downright stupid. I'm on Verizon FiOS, I can subscribe to giganews myself and download all I wanted. Comcast doesn't have their own news server. Stop and think for a moment, telling Comcast serves no purpose to you or anyone else using this workaround. It's giganews, they provide service to anyone, including desperate dialup users.
You tooting the horn doesn't make you look like a savior to users that use giganews. It just puts you in the spotlight as someone looking for attention. Even if every one of Comcast NNTP users used this workaround, they wouldn't need you to report it to them. They would notice it themselves and take care of it.

Then everyone will know who to blame when the workaround no longer works. I have to say it, 2GB on NNTP is lame. Those who do use it know that 2GB just in header downloads on popular newsgroups can eat into a good chunk of that monthly 2GB.
So just because you want people to stop watching porn they should not use their computer or bandwidth to watch porn?

You make no sense to me in one post and in another you do.