koitsu
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join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
1 edit | reply to en102
Re: SF/Oak Bay Area Comcast - Worst Service Ever
said by en102  :I use DSL-Extreme over SBC/AT&T lines. Thankfully, they're pretty active (and monitor this DSL Reports). The problem isn't with SBC and Comcast overloading their cable segments and DSLAMs (although Comcast has, in the past, overloaded some of their cable segments before). The problem is that their IP networks are oversaturated.
DSL Extreme uses their own IP network, so you wouldn't experience any of the problems in question.
This entire thread is getting *way* off topic, and will eventually saturate the real problem at hand... *sigh*
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to en102
The speed effect is after the "last mile" connection. It starts at the aggregation servers, and DSLX does not use the AT&T (former SBC) aggregation servers; they have their own.
It is a network issue, and it makes things dicey in California when the two largest HSI providers are both having similar problems affecting their customers. It would be akin to Chrysler, Ford and GM having the same product issues; back in the day when they were all you had to choose between.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to NormanS
I use DSL-Extreme over SBC/AT&T lines.
Thankfully, they're pretty active (and monitor this DSL Reports).
$ tracert yahoo.com
Tracing route to yahoo.com [216.109.112.135]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 19 ms 2 ms 2 ms CANADA-JG92XHNB [192.168.254.9]
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 192.168.254.11
3 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms netblock-68-183-96-1.dslextreme.com [68.183.96.1]
4 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms LAX1.CR1.Gig11-0-20.dslextreme.com [66.51.203.1]
5 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms exchange-cust1.lax.equinix.net [206.223.123.16]
6 66 ms 67 ms 67 ms ge-2-0-8.p420.pat1.dce.yahoo.com [216.115.97.134]
7 71 ms 73 ms 72 ms vlan220-msr2.dcn.yahoo.com [216.115.96.165]
8 67 ms 71 ms 71 ms ge2-2.bas1-m.dcn.yahoo.com [216.109.120.142]
9 67 ms 68 ms 68 ms w2.rc.vip.dcn.yahoo.com [216.109.112.135]
Trace complete. |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to LockJaw02
There is a whole thread in the SBC forum about their slowdown. It affects me, as well, though not as badly as others. When your 3008 service slows down to 400kbits/sec, that is worse than when your 1536 services slows down to 400kbits/sec. Being unaffected does not negate the effects felt by others.
Just as the fact that some Comcast users aren't affected doesn't negate the bad speeds other Comcast users are seeing.
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ggz
Premium
join:2002-02-03
Charleston, WV
| reply to LockJaw02
Hi all, I followed the link off the main BBR page about AT&T problems.
I live across the country from you all in WV, and I have Charter for cable. We have the same problem here high pings from 7-11pm everyday. And this all occurs when we hit the At&T servers in our tracert. Other have the same issue in surrounding states like KY, TN, VA and so on. |
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LockJaw02
join:2004-04-13
San Jose, CA
| reply to NormanS
said by NormanS :It looks like both Comcast and SBC have overloaded their California routers... I'm on SBC in the bay area and have had no problems with my line. I consistently get a ping of 24ms in games. Though in the same area I haven't really herd any issues from my friends with comcast. |
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NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA | reply to Infomastr2
It looks like both Comcast and SBC have overloaded their California routers...
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