enyikos
join:2006-01-29
Tulsa, OK
1 edit | Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth Hey everyone, wanted to let you know of my new hosting service I just started. I'm currently offering the following for free:
»xtremefh.com
* cPanel X
* 400MB Webspace
* 5 1/2GB Monthly Bandwidth
* 100 FTP Accounts
* 100 Email Accounts
* 100 SQL Databases
* 100 Sub Domains
* 100 Parked Domains
* 100 Addon Domains
* Frontpage Extensions
-Requires some forum posting, for me details see here:
»www.xtremefh.com/content/view/2/6/
All of which are upgradable as follows:
* 100 Megabytes of Webspace - 25 additional posts (max of 2,000MB)
* 1 Gigabyte of Bandwidth - 50 additional posts (max of 20 gigabytes)
* 10 Extra Email Accounts - 10 additional posts
* 10 Extra Sub Domains - 20 additional posts
Again, this is a new hosting service and if you have any ideas about how to make it better (reasonable) be sure to let me know and maybe I can incorporate your idea. If it's a really good idea, I'm sure I can give you a reward... | |
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Ken
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join:2003-06-16
Brownsburg, IN
1 edit | Re: Free 2000MB Webscape, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth Wasn't there somebody here awhile back advertising a service similiar to this? You had to make x number of posts to get the "free" hosting.
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I found it, that was you as well
»Free 600MB / 5GB and Higher! | |
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join:2006-01-29
Tulsa, OK | Re: Free 2000MB Webscape, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth Lol, I knew that would come back to haunt me. That isn't actually my service, it's a friend's. XtremeFH is mine  . | |
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twizlar
I dont think so.
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join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON | Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth Same crappy stuff. | |
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| enyikos
join:2006-01-29
Tulsa, OK | Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth Stop spamming like that! If you think its crappy say why! | |
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Ken
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join:2003-06-16
Brownsburg, IN
| Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth said by enyikos  :Stop spamming like that! If you think its crappy say why! Well your entire business model sucks, and is destined to fail.
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join:2006-01-29
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| Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth said by rjackson :said by enyikos :Stop spamming like that! If you think its crappy say why! Yes, you were given many reasonable explanations for why free hosting is not always a great value. All I want to do is tell people about my hosting, afterall that's what this forum is for. I don't really care about why it's going to fail and why I'm wasting my time.
Sheesh, these forums are so hard to get along with people in. | |
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stress magnet
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| Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth said by enyikos :All I want to do is tell people about my hosting, afterall that's what this forum is for. And you're well within your rights. We're also within our rights to point out the good, bad and ugly.
said by enyikos :I don't really care about why it's going to fail and why I'm wasting my time. I hope that's not your mission statement...we do care. Our primary concern is that of our members and readers, and to make sure that they don't get shafted with a "here today, gone tomorrow" host...to put it lightly.
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join:2006-01-29
Tulsa, OK
| Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth said by state :I don't really care about why it's going to fail and why I'm wasting my time. I hope that's not your mission statement...we do care. Our primary concern is that of our members and readers, and to make sure that they don't get shafted with a "here today, gone tomorrow" host...to put it lightly. No that's not my mission statement, lol. Good to know you guys care and I do realize what you're saying about being gone the next day, which won't happen as long as I can get some members. | |
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Crisis Management Squad
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Houston, TX
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| Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth Now you have to tell yourself, "These guys have been doing this review stuff for years now. How many times have they heard the very same thing?"
The fact is that your business model is pretty crappy. How exactly do posts equal dollars? You're bound to lose money quickly on this.
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big greg
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join:2003-10-11
Boston, MA
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| said by enyikos :No that's not my mission statement, lol. Good to know you guys care and I do realize what you're saying about being gone the next day, which won't happen as long as I can get some members. So what is your business model? Get lots of people to post and read, somehow causing your click-through ad revenue to skyrocket and somehow pay for your hosting and also buy you a new car? All without you lifting a finger? Oh wait you have to keep an eye on all your customers... some of them may get silly and run you out of bandwidth or something and you will be entirely justified by terminating their free accounts.
You can get shared web hosting for ~$3/month... is spending all that time (minutes? hours?) reading and posting worth $3 to your customers? Ah, but what about people who don't have a credit card and can't use their mom's? There's your market.
So your customers are the people who are motivated enough to really want to post on your pretty much vacant board, but aren't motivated enough to pay $3/month (3 double bacon cheeseburgers) for hosting, and don't really mind all that much if their site disappears tomorrow.
Or have I got it all wrong?
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Fo' Shizzle
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Hilo, HI
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| Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth said by big greg : Ah, but what about people who don't have a credit card and can't use their mom's? There's your market. Way, Way, Wayyy tooo damned close for comfort ............:D | |
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big greg
Premium,MVM,Ex-Mod 2005-6
join:2003-10-11
Boston, MA
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| I was thinking about this over night.
Gentlemen, we have an opportunity here. This guy already has his reseller account, and he's on the hook for that every month (or maybe he prepaid). Either way, we know he has put cash into this. He speaks rather well for himself, doesn't lose it when we jump all over him. He has enough going in the technical side to get this far. Let's assume for a moment that maybe he's ok on facilities, technical knowledge, and even temperament. So it isn't all bad.
We know his current business model just ... uhh.... high risk... lots of work... ummm I'll go with that his business model is not assured success in the marketplace.
So. An alternate plan. Here's what I was thinking. First of all, forget the free hosting. You will only get the worst of the bottom feeder part of the market. Leave that end of things to people who can make money in it because they have gawdawful volume.
Instead, cater to just above that, the guy who wasn't ready to spend $6/month to have what he really needs. Let's say you go $3/month, but you have to buy blocks of 6 months at a time, that's $18. Or maybe you go $2/month, $24/year.
Now for payment plans, you have to be able to be flexible. Screw credit cards, those guys will go to another market. You want the market for the guy or gal without a credit card. You can resell domain names to them.
Take whatever payment you can. Set up a PO box. Take checks. Use Paypal (but charge 50 cents more a month to take it). Use your friends. Get that crazy uncle geezer guy that always reeks of Guinness to move his site, he pays you in beer or cash or his collection of Star Wars on DVD. Use your imagination.
Have a reasonable simple TOS that people will read, then stick to it. State that you will send a (pro-rated) refund if you cancel their service for TOS violations.
When the time runs out, pow, send email and take the web site offline, leave the email running. That will leave the communication lines open, then you either get you paid again OR you can ditch the account.
I think something like that would be successful. Or at least it has a chance to be successful. What do the rest of you think?
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join:2005-08-27
uk
| > Sheesh, these forums are so hard to get along with people in.
You made a false claim that the hosting was free in the subject of your post to get people to read it. What else do you expect?
On the technical side, how many terrabytes can each database be? Is their size included in the total hosting size? Any limits on queries per second or disk or time use by a single query? What database server software and version? If MySQL, is InnoDB available? Is penetration testing or verification of the database server acceptable? Any limits on CPU, RAM or disk seek use?
Why don't you allow links to sites selling music in the MP3 format? Is linking to sites selling it in the OGG or FLAC formats OK?
I expect that I'm not the only person here who's been paid to do what you consider "free" - managing and posting to message boards. You're offering a rate a few hundreds of times less than the one I expect for such services. | |
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William Mc
Premium
join:2004-07-27
Washougal, WA | Thanks, but no thanks, reason; your attitude don't help along with having to post on a forum just to keep free hosting. | |
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twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
| Exactly there have been tons of these post to get free hosting "scams" if you will. You don't make money by having people posting on some pointless forum. The only reason people post on a forum is if it is USEFUL, not to gain lousy free hosting.
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twizlar
I dont think so.
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join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON | Nope, you are right, he is targetting anyone that has no real reason to have a website.
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MSauk
MSauk
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join:2002-01-17
Sandy, UT | I like the design. Not sure it is right for webhosting, but cool anyways | |
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dl0711
join:2004-06-27
London, ON
1 edit | and if you do have plans to take it down will you notify others so that they can backup there data?
i had a free host from someone on Neowin.net cant remember the users name that gave it to me but he gave out
domain name.tecklike.com and he never gave notice before he took it down and lost all DATA. | |
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cbiggers
join:2000-08-10
San Luis Obispo, CA
clubs: | Another note, your PHP version is old. Upgrade it. | |
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Crisis Management Squad
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join:2002-02-08
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clubs: | Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth He can't - it's a shared/reseller hosting server, not his own. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth said by removed :He can't - it's a shared/reseller hosting server, not his own. at least its not on a cable modem connection........
is it?
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clubs: | Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth Been a while since we've had one of those... | |
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join:2000-08-10
San Luis Obispo, CA
clubs: | No it's being hosted at Layeredtech. | |
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kdandaoc
join:2003-10-13
608052427 | well, after reading thwe critical thinking in the preceding posts, I now have absolutely no desire to further investigate your claim...thanks guys! | |
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Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone
| Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth they have a forum for this btw on a different site:
»www.freewebspace.net/forums/foru···php?f=32
personally, I don't bother with the ones that require you to post. | |
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sapo
I eat meat
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join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA | 10 Second Hosting. | |
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nguyen27
join:2003-05-14
Quincy, MA
1 edit | I just read the TOS, and now I'm having a headache... black/grey with white letters seem to do it awfully quick. It looks like some sort of underground WWW  | |
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insomx
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Canada | Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth Wow, that site is terribly slow.... | |
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zbryne
join:2005-04-11
Ardmore, PA | After you have made 5 posts in the foums, you can apply for the following plan:
Ugghhh | |
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Microsoft 98
join:2003-01-22
Micmac, NS | I seen few sites offering the same thing but you need to post something to make it look good now whats up with that?
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twizlar
I dont think so.
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join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON | Sweet, beer and dvds for hosting. I'll take that dealio. | |
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enyikos
join:2006-01-29
Tulsa, OK
| I totally understand what everyone is saying. There's no way I would be able to pay for the server. There are about 4 or 5 hosting services on the server, 3 of which are free. All of them have some ads on them that bring in money. Also, we're trying to start a paid hosting service to bring in some more money to help pay for it.
Another reason I like the forum idea is the fact that I want an active community. There's no scamming about this. | |
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rjackson
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Ringgold, GA
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| Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth said by enyikos :Another reason I like the forum idea is the fact that I want an active community. There's no scamming about this. Holding peoples' hosting accounts hostage with compulsory posting on some forum is not the way to build an active community. I mean, if it were me I would just script it to post some gibberish automatically each day. | |
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| said by enyikos :Another reason I like the forum idea is the fact that I want an active community. There's no scamming about this. How authentic is the community when the only thing keeping people around is free hosting?
Like I said in the other thread, holding peoples' accounts hostage isn't an effective way to have a nice community.
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enyikos
join:2006-01-29
Tulsa, OK | Well than, it's a good thing I lied about most of that info on the whois anyway.
Anyway, he's just trying to make me mad by posting that. Oh yeah, well you failed, I've never been happier! | |
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3 edits | Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth said by enyikos :Well than, it's a good thing I lied about most of that info on the whois anyway. Heh. You're kidding, right?
Edit: Looks like he really did lie on the domain info. It would be a shame if someone reported him to his registrar, since posting phony contact info is against ICANN policies. Here is his real info:
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join:2006-01-29
Tulsa, OK
1 edit | Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth said by removed :said by enyikos :Well than, it's a good thing I lied about most of that info on the whois anyway. Heh. You're kidding, right? Edit: Looks like he really did lie on the domain info. It would be a shame if someone reported him to his registrar, since posting phony contact info is against ICANN policies. Here is his real info: (removed by moderator) Ok, you got me. Now would you please remove that? It's really not cool anymore. | |
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| Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth No way. You admitted that you lied on your domain registration info, so I took the liberty of posting your real contact details here. Said details were acquired using legitimate public sources.
You can try to get the mods to remove it, but I won't do it on my own.
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